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<p>Sorry, just saw the pages in the email chain. Are these going to
be posted in the general pd mailing list as well?</p>
<p>thanks for your work!<br>
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<p>J<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/21/2017 04:41 PM, me.grimm wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 4:22 AM,
cyrille henry <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:ch@chnry.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ch@chnry.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">As I
said in earlier mail, my aim is (for now) to be able to
release a Gem version that incorporate the development
made in the last 5 years.<br>
Time is not to add functionalities, but to keep Gem alive.<br>
<br>
Starting new development now is, imo, a nonsense since no
release can be done before this 4 tasks will be finished.<br>
<br>
I am, like you, only a linux user that have no interest in
osX nor windows, but this is mandatory before being able
to go forward.<br>
<br>
cheers<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
c</font></span>
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Le 20/11/2017 à 16:58, Jack a écrit :<br>
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Or for all platforms ?<br>
In vertex processing with have :<br>
- vertex shader<br>
- geometry shader<br>
<br>
What about tesselation shader ?<br>
<br>
I use Gem a lot so i will be happy to participate
financially if that<br>
can help to add functionality to it.<br>
++<br>
<br>
Jack<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Le 20/11/2017 à 12:27, Max a écrit :<br>
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What about something for linux? Generally support
a new release?<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2017년 11월 17일 18:07, cyrille henry wrote:<br>
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0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
it appear that pledgie is dedicatad to find
money for your work,<br>
better than financing other work.<br>
i.e, if I crete a project, I'll receive the
donation.<br>
<br>
So, I went with bounty source.<br>
I create 4 bounty:<br>
<br>
<a
href="https://www.bountysource.com/issues/3383537-w32-build-msvc"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.bountysource.com/i<wbr>ssues/3383537-w32-build-msvc</a><br>
<a
href="https://www.bountysource.com/issues/4185679-native-video-capturing-on-osx-64bit"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.bountysource.com/i<wbr>ssues/4185679-native-video-cap<wbr>turing-on-osx-64bit</a><br>
<br>
<a
href="https://www.bountysource.com/issues/4185729-native-film-reading-on-osx-64bit"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.bountysource.com/i<wbr>ssues/4185729-native-film-read<wbr>ing-on-osx-64bit</a><br>
<br>
<a
href="https://www.bountysource.com/issues/6492784-native-image-reading-writing-on-osx-64bit"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.bountysource.com/i<wbr>ssues/6492784-native-image-rea<wbr>ding-writing-on-osx-64bit</a><br>
<br>
<br>
They correspond to the 4 most important bug I
found on the gitub<br>
bugtracker.<br>
<br>
It's time to find money!<br>
<br>
<br>
Le 15/11/2017 à 18:05, cyrille henry a écrit :<br>
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0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
hello,<br>
i'm sorry it took so long, I have lot's of
work.<br>
<br>
I found 2 platform :<br>
<br>
<a href="https://pledgie.com/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://pledgie.com/</a><br>
and :<br>
<a href="https://www.bountysource.com/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.bountysource.com/</a><br>
<br>
pledgie get 3% of the donation, bountysource
get 10%.<br>
<br>
unless anyone have a better idea, i'll start
to go with pledgie<br>
cheers<br>
c<br>
<br>
<br>
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Le 30/10/2017 à 17:38, cyrille henry a écrit :<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hello,<br>
<br>
I've check Iohannes github: There is not a
lot's of release critical<br>
issue.<br>
<br>
Image, film and video under osX and having a
way to compile for<br>
window and the main issues.<br>
<br>
There is also lot's of stuff regarding FTGL,
but they look to be<br>
obsolete. At least, we will know if they are
obsolete after being<br>
able to compile Gem on the concerned
platform.<br>
<br>
Since Iohannes is currently too buzzy to
help, I think we should<br>
organize development in 2 parts :<br>
<br>
1st : doing the minimum to have Gem usable
on all platform.<br>
We could then release a v0.94 and use it to
test on lot's of<br>
computer and reporting all bugs.<br>
Then, a 2nd development round could create a
0.94.1 bugfix release<br>
with a longer lifetime.<br>
<br>
if there is no objection, I will have a look
at the platform we<br>
could use to centralize financing and stuff.<br>
cheers<br>
c<br>
<br>
<br>
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Le 12/10/2017 à 10:34, cyrille henry a
écrit :<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
hello Max<br>
<br>
Le 12/10/2017 à 10:04, Max a écrit :<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Bonjour Cyrille,<br>
<br>
This sounds good, there was the idea of
some bounty system years<br>
ago too.<br>
I think it's crucial for this process to<br>
<br>
1. break up the job in small manageable
parts<br>
</blockquote>
yes, that's the idea of using the github
bug tracker. Spiting jobs<br>
in bugs.<br>
(and use flags to create priorities)<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
2. well define their scope and define
what "job completed" entails<br>
</blockquote>
I think it imply that the push request is
accepted, and the code is<br>
merged upstream.<br>
<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
3. set up a system that doesn't come
with a huge administration<br>
overhead<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
yes, this is a problem.<br>
The reduce amount of developers interested
in this job will make<br>
things simpler.<br>
<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
It almost seem there should be a
platform for this out there...<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
yes, I don't think administration will be
a show stopper.<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<a
href="https://www.bountysource.com/teams/pure-data/issues"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.bountysource.com/t<wbr>eams/pure-data/issues</a><br>
this one looks like it parses github
issues.. kind of shady.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2017년 10월 12일 09:46, cyrille henry
wrote:<br>
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Hello,<br>
<br>
Since the "get money, paid a
developer" idea arise on the mailing<br>
list, I spend last weeks trying to
think how to organize the last<br>
bit of development that need to be
done.<br>
<br>
I think we need a clear roadmap : a
list of all object / platform<br>
that need to be fixed. My proposition
is to use/update the<br>
bugtracker and to organize everything
that need to be done under<br>
the "release critical" tag. There is a
bit of work there. For<br>
example "native film reading in osX/64
bit" is not mark as<br>
release critical.<br>
Also, there is 2 critical bug
regarding W32 build : do we need to<br>
be able to compile Gem on mingw AND
mscv?<br>
<br>
With this list of "release critical"
bugs, it will be easier to<br>
estimate the work that need to be
done. It will allow to estimate<br>
the development time, and the bounty
we could offer for this work.<br>
<br>
With the financial help of New
Blankets, other institutions,<br>
associations or users, I confident
that we will be able to<br>
finance this work (or part of this
work).<br>
<br>
does this sound good?<br>
<br>
cheers<br>
Cyrille<br>
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