[PD-dev] displaying when an arg has been overridden

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Jun 23, 2006, at 2:48 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:

> Hallo,
> Jamie Bullock hat gesagt: // Jamie Bullock wrote:
>
>> I second that - I think it would be a very useful feature. However,
>> I think the colour should be quite subtle so as to not look too much
>> like an error (red) or another alert message. Perhaps it should also
>> be an option, so that people can turn 'colour mode' off if they
>> really do just want black and white (or perhaps slightly better
>> performance).
>
> I would prefer something like a tooltip. IIRC I never ran into the
> problem of taking an argument to still be valid so a different color
> would just distract me. I mean, *a lot* of objects get a different
> value from the initialized one soon after a patch was loaded, for
> example every [f 0]X[+ 1] counter or many [osc~ 440]. And they might
> even be at their default value again for some time later, so a
> different color sounds a little bit useless.
>
> Additionally I think, that there is no natural connection between the
> graphical signal: "object colored differently" and the information to
> be transported: "default value is overwritten". A tooltip however
> would directly display the needed information, so the connection
> between the graphical event and the information displayed is very
> close.

Personally, I find tooltips far more distracting that just a tiny bit  
of color on the screen.  Only very important things should cause  
popups on the screen, not just status information.  The "loudness" of  
the interruption should be proportional to the urgency of what is  
being communicated.  As you well described, this is often not urgent  
info.

> And last: When printed - I know Hans doesn't do that, but ... ;) -
> when printed, all objects should look the same, regardless what value
> they hold currently.

I only print when someone else makes me ;).  On that topic, I did  
create my NIME poster in Pd, which was printed on A1 paper:

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