<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I support this idea, but I have to say the biggest challenge will be social, not technical. I think in order for it to succeed, you will have to submit things in small, incremental patches. I think that it would be best to work on the MAIN branch in CVS, i.e. Miller's branch. But you should also coordinate with the pd-devel people, so that merging the doesn't become more difficult.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>.hc</DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Sep 11, 2006, at 8:21 AM, Vincent Lordier wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Hi enthusiasts devs !<BR><BR>I want to work on pd's code readability and structure, only refactoring, not adding new features. (<A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refactoring">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refactoring</A> )<BR>The final goal is to make PD easy to scale (desactivate MIDI, Audio, Network, some CoreLibs, ...)<BR><BR>'We've got to undo the MIDI revolution!<SPAN style="font-family: monospace;"> </SPAN> said Miller'<BR> => Well, as far as I know, removing MIDI from PD's hairy code isn't as easy as "./configure --nomidi' make install ... yet !<BR><BR>There is quite a bit to do in this area, some of it is just renaming, indenting, some of it might be "cleaning out" stuff.h to separate clearly MIDI, Audio, engine, GUI and CoreLibs.<BR>Again, my goal is not to alter pd in its behavior (yet), nor optimizing anything (yet), just to improve readability and separation of modules.<BR>Any help on this and / or pointers to previous work is welcomed :) <BR><BR>I want to make it easier for anyone to get into the code, to maintain it and to address issues like portability (from embedded - PDa-like or even tinier - to bigger systems).<BR><BR>BUT my main problem right now is : on which version / branch should I work on ? <BR><BR>Why isn't the last 0.40-0test7 into CVS ? Are there other repositories, and where are they, what are their goal and who maintains them ?<BR>This is a bit confusing to me : could you explain to me, shortly, what's going on around PD devs ? <BR><BR>I'll start by submitting little patches btw.<BR><BR>thx a lot<BR><BR>vincent<BR><BR><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">PD-dev mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:PD-dev@iem.at">PD-dev@iem.at</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>