<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=""><div><br><div>Honestly, Tcl/Tk does a much better job than GTK on Mac OS X and maybe Windows too. GTK apps look like, well, GTK apps. Tcl/Tk apps can be made to be quite native in feel.</div>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br>I guess I am thinking more of functionality. I feel like I have hit a wall with pd's data structs, as the things I want to do are either impossible or too slow with tk (If anyone can think of a way to make a playhead auto scroll in a data-struct - score, I may stand corrected). <br>
<br>Personally, the thought of using cario or opengl widgets for controlling pd is appealing. So much that I am experimenting with a seperate app, coded in gtk/opengl, for controlling pd through OSC. I just don't see any reason why not to have it as the native pd GUI as well. Not that I can do it at present, or that cario/opengl will ever be in pd-vanilla, just dreaming.<br>
<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=""><div><div> Tcl/Tk's big lack right now is native GNOME (and maybe KDE?) panels. I've looked for a way to use native GNOME open/save panels, but I haven't found it yet. Anyone know of a way?</div>
<div><br></div><div>.hc</div><div class="Ih2E3d"><br><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br><br>IIIIIII!<br><br>rich.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br> cheers<br> <font color="#888888">M<br> </font><div><div></div><div><br> On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 05:26:00PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:<br> ><br> > Now that I have discovered this bytecode caching feature, I am<br>
> curious if the changes I made have made any performance differences.<br> > Also, matju mentioned that the bytecode caching probably works better<br> > if reusing procs, so it could make sense to have sys_vgui calls use<br>
> Tcl procs, so that the bytecode gets reused.<br> ><br> > I was also thinking that perhaps sys_vgui communications could use<br> > Tcl_Obj references instead of sending whole lines of Tcl, but that<br> > might get overly complicated.<br>
><br> > .hc<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> > ----<br> ><br> > <a href="http://at.or.at/hans/" target="_blank">http://at.or.at/hans/</a><br>
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