<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>Hey Anderson,</div><div><br></div><div>Its good timing for bringing these up, Günter has stopped maintaining his official Debian packages, so they are officially orphaned right now. Anyone here a Debian Developer? I am starting the process of becoming a Debian Developer (and I'll be helping to run DebCof 2010 in NYC next summer). We could start a Pd group for packaging all this stuff.</div><div><br></div><div>I think that the 'puredata' and pure:dyne packages would be the best place to start, then they just need to be tailored to be more Debian-proper (i.e. moving all non-libs out of /usr/lib/pd, etc.) and work with the 'pd' virtual package. I</div><div><br></div><div>Plus dmotd, IOhannes, me and others are working on rewriting build system so it should be easier to package the libraries individually.</div><div><br></div><div>.hc</div><br><div><div>On Sep 21, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Anderson Goulart wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hello IOhannes,<br><br>thanks for your answer... <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:08 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zmoelnig@iem.at">zmoelnig@iem.at</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Anderson Goulart wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hello all,<br> </blockquote><div class="im"> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> puredata-ext-XX - package containing a single external<br> puredata-abs-XX - package containing a single abstraction<br> </blockquote> <br></div> why do you want to separate them? </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> how does a "single external" differ (substantially) from a "single abstraction"? (esp. since .deb takes care of platform-in/dependency)<br> <br></blockquote><div><br>Well, this is just an ideia and we can decide to use names like puredata-xxx, where xxx is the name of external/abstraction. What I want here is to discuss the conventions about packaging things related to Pd. <br> <br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> do you really want to distribute a _single_ file with an entire .deb or do you rather mean "library"?<br> <br></blockquote><div><br>Maybe we can distribute a "library" if those externals/abstractions are related. But if they are different, with different upstream authors, with different dependencies and different funcionalities, I think distribute an entire .deb is better than put it together in a library. <br> <br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> how does this integrate into the already existing debian infrastructure for Pd? e.g. with naming schemes like "pd-zexy" or "pd-gem" (that is: why do we want to reinvent the wheel?)<br> <br></blockquote><div><br>I am not a debian developer, but I am sure we can talk to them to upload all packages to the official repo. The naming conventions are just suggestions and we can use pd-xxx instead of puredata-xxx. 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