<div>Hello, Hans,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your remarks. I really think the patch tracker is a great and important tool,</div><div>but what I was letting you know is that it is being inefficient in practice for my specific case with the specific developers of puredata_opencv.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Lluis & Yves both agreed that I could develop pix_opencv and pdp_opencv and actually asked me to keep working on the SVN repository. They gave me specific guidelines: adding stuff straight on is OK, but modifying existing stuff requires some discussion with them.</div>
<div><br></div><div>So acces to externals/pdp_opencv and externals/pix_opencv is a good place to start. I need a faster route to developing there as I am having to ship files around to friends & mailing lists that need my simple but important changes.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regarding the remainder of the repository, there is no immediate necessity right now, but there will be soon.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: <b class="gmail_sendername">lluis gomez i bigorda</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lluisgomez@hangar.org">lluisgomez@hangar.org</a>></span><br>Date: Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:18 AM<br>Subject: Re: pix_opencv, pdp_opencv<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:ydegoyon@gmail.com">ydegoyon@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:ydegoyon@gmail.com">ydegoyon@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: Ricardo Fabbri <<a href="mailto:rfabbri@gmail.com">rfabbri@gmail.com</a>><br>
<br><br><br>Hi Ricardo,<br><br>I have more or less the same "feeling" that Yves ... there's no need to<br>work in a separate version control system ... or it is?<br><br>Also, as We don't know us personally and We still don't know the way We<br>
like to do things... I think it's a good idea to preserve a bit the<br>original code of the libs, let's say there is an "informal" rule working<br>with the code on pix_opencv, pdp_opencv, more or less it's like this ::<br>
There is no problem at all adding new objects or files if doesn't breaks<br>nothing of the existing ones, but for modifying the previous code please<br>discuss it first to commit ...<br><br>I hope you understand this ... think that pd_opencv has no stable<br>
version nor "official" snapshots, so the only way to get the code is via<br>sourceforge and We want to mantain certain "stability" there ... this is<br>specially important for the autotools system fo example ... now it works<br>
perfectly.<br><br>Well this is more or less what We are doing until now, We already had<br>some contributions on that way... and it seems to work :)<br><br>For sure, With time things could change if We get more confidence ...<br>
<br>On the other hand, I must say I'm pleassed to have more people working<br>together in pd_opencv. For sure there a millions of things to explore!<br><br>best,<br>ll.<br clear="all"><br>Ricardo<br>--<br>Linux registered user #175401<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at">hans@at.or.at</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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Hey Ricardo,<br>
<br>
Its great that you are working on pix_opencv there. That library can do a lot and still has lots of potential, so more dev work there should produce fun stuff.<br>
<br>
The patch tracker process may seem onerous, but I find that it is quite useful for discussing patches and changes. It is not at all meant to be a barrier to committing, instead it is a useful tool to handle different situations. Also, getting added to the sourceforge project does not mean you can start committing anywhere in the pure-data repository. For pix_opencv stuff, you will still need to go thru its authors before committing anything. It is up to the person wanting to commit to get explicit permission from the author/maintainer of that library before committing any changes. For example, IOhannes has asked everyone to go thru the patch/bug tracker for zexy changes, and though I have the technical permissions to commit to zexy, I post my changes to the tracker.<br>
<br>
Lastly, I saw that you posted the patches to pix_opencv, but I don't know that code at all, so I can't really evaluate it. If you post a patch for code that I know, then I'll review it, and then have a place to judge from. If the pix_opencv authors say they want you to have commit access, then I'll add you. There are other administrators too that can grant access if they want to.<br>
<br>
.hc<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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On Oct 16, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Ricardo Fabbri wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Dear Hans,<br>
<br>
I've been writing patches to pix_opencv, a tiny one that was already<br>
incorporated, and the other which is more significant but is taking<br>
time from Lluis to be applied.<br>
<br>
I was going to wait until I sent you some larger patches, however,<br>
I wonder if I could get commit access already since the patch tracker<br>
scheme is taking unnecessary time from people (both from you and from<br>
users that take long to see the changes). Perhaps I could be in a<br>
watch period where I email you & the responsible externals person<br>
every single commit that I make.<br>
<br>
Anyways, I am also perfectly OK with having to wait longer. I just<br>
would like you to know about the situation.<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
Ricardo<br>
--<br>
Linux registered user #175401<br>
<a href="http://www.lems.brown.edu/~rfabbri" target="_blank">www.lems.brown.edu/~rfabbri</a><br>
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On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at" target="_blank">hans@at.or.at</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
That's a good idea, try looking in the bug tracker and starting there<br>
with any bug that you are interested in.<br>
<br>
.hc<br>
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On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 19:18 -0300, Ricardo Fabbri wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Thank you, Hans.<br>
<br>
I think that sounds reasonable. The hard drive from the big computer I<br>
was working with just died,<br>
so I am having this transition time to deal with anyways. Soon enough<br>
I'll come up with the patches. If there is any bug specifically you'd<br>
like to see fixed, let me know and maybe I can give a shot at it.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
On Saturday, October 1, 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner <<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at" target="_blank">hans@at.or.at</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
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Hey Ricardo,<br>
<br>
Welcome, its great to have you working on Pd! This Lab Macambira<br>
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sounds<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
very promising. The way things work with getting SVN access is<br>
</blockquote>
'lazy<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
consensus'. Basically we wait for a while and if no one objects, an<br>
admin will add you as a committer. Since you are new to<br>
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contributing to<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Pd, I'd like to see a patch or two from you before adding you.<br>
<br>
.hc<br>
<br>
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 19:26 -0300, Ricardo Fabbri wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hello, all,<br>
<br>
I would like to introduce myself and humbly request to be a Pd<br>
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committer.<br>
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Following <a href="http://puredata.info/docs/developer/SVNCommitAccess" target="_blank">http://puredata.info/docs/<u></u>developer/SVNCommitAccess</a><br>
this is the required info:<br>
<br>
My name is Ricardo Fabbri and I have been working with free<br>
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software<br>
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since 1999, specializing in computer vision and image processing.<br>
During my PhD I worked on 3D reconstruction algorithms and video<br>
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camera<br>
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self-calibration, and have also worked for Google in applications<br>
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of<br>
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related technology for the scanning and indexing of books and other<br>
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print<br>
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material. I have recently returned to Brazil where I helped found<br>
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the<br>
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free software group Lab Macambira (<a href="http://labmacambira.sf.net" target="_blank">labmacambira.sf.net</a>), together<br>
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with<br>
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my brother Renato Fabbri, Vilson Vieira, and others. We are<br>
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currently<br>
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a team of 15.<br>
<br>
My brother had a significant influence in Pd Con that was held in<br>
Brazil, as well as in the rise of the Brazilian Pd and Linux<br>
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community. My<br>
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brother is a composer and is doing graduate work in computational<br>
physics. I was actually the one who introduced him to Pd and Linux<br>
back in the days when he was working with Max. We were also joined<br>
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by<br>
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Gilson Beck, another composer who got hooked on Pd. Currently, my<br>
direct interests with Pd development are to support the demands<br>
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from<br>
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these composers, but, mainly, to support Pd as a core component of<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
our<br>
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real-time video processing stack. We use Pd for guiding C++ modules<br>
linked to OpenCV and VXL.<br>
We also use Scilab as a quick prototyping language for new<br>
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algorithms.<br>
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As you can see, Pd is the guiding master of our systems, so it is<br>
crucial for us to have a development grip on it. Commit access is<br>
important as we would like to develop this key component with you.<br>
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You<br>
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can count on our painstaking care not to break anything and our<br>
willing service to improve Pd. Perhaps with a commit access it will<br>
make it easier to do small improvements and documentation, for a<br>
start, or bigger things such as adding completely new<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
functionality.<br>
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<br>
Our concrete plans for developing Pd are related to pix_opencv:<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
adding<br>
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new functionality,<br>
providing bugfixes, and modifying pix_opencv_bgstats to allow for<br>
different background modeling algorithms,<br>
and also profiling it to make it faster and more responsive. We<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
plan<br>
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to help maintain puredata_opencv in general,<br>
as well as helping you guys out with whatever you need. We were<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
also<br>
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thinking about helping to migrate<br>
the community pd-svn repository to Git, or even Gem to Git, so that<br>
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at<br>
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least all our repos are under the same version control.<br>
Any suggestions on how to help are more than welcome. We are very<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
glad<br>
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to be interacting with you.<br>
<br>
SF user: ricardofabbri.<br>
Optionally, Vilson's SF user: vilsonvieira and My brother's:<br>
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greenkobold<br>
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<br>
Best regards,<br>
Ricardo<br>
--<br>
Linux registered user #175401<br>
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