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id="yiv7980223942yui_3_7_2_28_1371657355849_90" style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PD-dev] remove tk scaling<br> </font> </div> <div id="yiv7980223942yui_3_7_2_28_1371657355849_94" class="yiv7980223942y_msg_container"><br>[...]<br><br>>nevertheless, here is some discussion that backs up *not* removing the<br>line:<br><a rel="nofollow" id="yiv7980223942yui_3_7_2_28_1371657355849_120" target="_blank" href="http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-11/056834.html">http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-11/056834.html</a><br><br>As usual matju's comment is spot on in that thread, and since ttk<br>widgets themselves use point sizes then [tk scaling 1] can and does<br>cause the tiny fonts on Windows.<br><br>Also, have a look at the following:<br>From g_mycanvas.c in 0.41 <br>-font {{%s} %d %s}<br><br>From g_mycanvas.c in 0.43:<br>-font {{%s} -%d %s}<br><br>That is why I see pixel exact patches across OSX, WinXP
and<br>Debian with Pd >= 0.43, regardless of n for [tk scaling n], and why<br>Cyrille saw different font sizes. The negative font size is what<br>guarantees pixel exact patches, not tk scaling.<br><br>This leaves us with Cyrille's report about the<br>"the font size of text in the main pd window" changing. The link<br>to the screenshot he posted is dead, but as long as the font size<br>isn't abnormally sized compared to other applications I don't see<br>why that would be a problem. The whole point of
modern<br>geometry managers is to adjust to whatever size is needed to<br>accomodate the widgets and fonts associated with them. If<br>Pd requires pixel-exact windows and dialogs for the gui stuff<br>that isn't a pixel-exact dataflow diagram (read: all the stuff<br>that isn't a patch) then we're doing something wrong.<br><br>-Jonathan<br><br>>ghsmdf<br>>IOhannes<br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div></body></html>