<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><p class="airmail_on" style="color:#000;">On 31 July 2015 at 19:40:32, IOhannes m zmölnig (<a href="mailto:zmoelnig@iem.at">zmoelnig@iem.at</a>) wrote:</p> <div><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span><div><div></div><div>On 07/31/2015 04:36 AM, Chris McCormick wrote:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> On 30/07/15 17:05, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>> in any case, i thought that it might be better to really allow the devs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>> themselves to pick *any* hoster they prefer, be it your own gitlab<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>> instance, OSUOSL, github, or even sf.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> The good thing about this is we don't even need to "allow" anybody to do<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> anything. As Roman showed, anybody can take the initiative and start<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> maintaining the externals they like at this very moment.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>well, everybody was always free to do that.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>so i probably shouldn't have used "allow".<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>what i'm really interested in (and which is why i put work into it), is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>a coordinated transition that would allow [sic!] anybody who is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>interested in taking part in the development process (or just interested<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>in getting the latest and greatest sources of a given external) to find<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>what they are looking for.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>traditionally this was rather easy: Pd had a single repository where<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>virtually all (FLOSS) libraries were aggragated. most were actively<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>developed in that SVN (a few were regularily imported from whatever<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>their upstream used).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>so if you were interested in "what's going on in Pd land", then you<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>would just need to check out that repository.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>when switching away from sf/svn we might lose this feature.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>did you know that i forked iemnet onto github a while ago?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>having s-abstractions hosted on gitlab.mccormick.com is nice, but how<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>will anybody ever stumble (serendipitously) upon that?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div></div></span></blockquote></div><p>How about: authors / maintainers can host their externals wherever they like, but we maintain a “meta” repository on GitHub that includes all the various external [sic] repositories as git submodules…? This doesn’t entirely solve the issue of authors moving or deleting their repository, but it does at least provide a set of links so that if a repo moves, we know about it and can contact maintainers to find out new locations. It also provides a one-stop for "what's going on in Pd land” for those who want it.</p><p>Jamie</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><div><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span><div><div><br></div></div></span></blockquote></div></body></html>