<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div>Hey IO,</div><div><br></div><div>Don't worry, I got it sorted.</div><div><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475228302155_23219">The right inlet of +~ receiving a control-rate object waits until the end of the block, but the signal is continuous. wrap_overshoot~ waits until the end of the audio block to synchronize with control-rate signals further down the chain.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475228302155_23270"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475228302155_23271">Let's not have a debate now - all will be revealed at my paper presentation in New York in November.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475228302155_23322"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475228302155_23323">See you then,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475228302155_23324">x</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475228302155_23325">Ed<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475228302155_23159"><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475228302155_23158"> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475228302155_23147" class="signature"><b>Lone Shark </b>releases: <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475228302155_23157"><b>Light Vessel Automatic</b> available now on 12" vinyl.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475228302155_23146"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475228302155_23148" style="font-weight:bold;">Build Your Wings on the Way Down</span>, the new digital album available @ http://scifirecords.co.uk/releases <br><b>Earthlings </b>compilation is out now @ http://www.pyramidtransmissions.com<br><br>Ninja Jamm - the revolutionary music remix app for iOS and Android: http://www.ninjajamm.com/<br><br>Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, and Metastudio 5 live composition and improvisation suite, available at http://sharktracks.co.uk/puredata</div></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> On Thursday, 29 September 2016, 16:44, IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig@iem.at> wrote:<br></font></div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container">On 2016-09-29 16:25, Ed Kelly via Pd-dev wrote:<br clear="none">> Because the control-rate message doesn't happen until the end of the audio block<br clear="none"><br clear="none">but ain't this just wrong? iirc, the control-rate message happens before<br clear="none">the audio block.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">anyhow, at the end of the audio block, it's too late to do audio<br clear="none">processing, because audio processing is already over for this block.<br clear="none">so it will only effect the samples of the next block.<br clear="none">which is much the same as delaying the signal for one block and then<br clear="none">applying any transformation.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">the only other wish that might make some sense (from the wisher's<br clear="none">perspective) is, that [wrap_offshot~] is forced to be last object in the<br clear="none">audio queue.<br clear="none">this has some implications, like: what if you have two instances forced<br clear="none">to be the last one?<br clear="none">how will any objects below that forced-last object (as in: there inlet~s<br clear="none">are connected to the forced-last outlet~s) receive their signal in time?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">i still do not understand what you are actually trying to achieve and<br clear="none">how. i also think that you are not entirely sure in what you are asking for.<br clear="none">so let's try some rubber duck debugging: if you manage to explain your<br clear="none">problem in simple enough words so others can understand it, we might<br clear="none">find a solution (or the problem/approach has evaporated)<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">gasdr<div class="yqt1236845795" id="yqtfd08203"><br clear="none">IOhannes<br clear="none"></div><br><div class="yqt1236845795" id="yqtfd18936">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Pd-dev mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Pd-dev@lists.iem.at" href="mailto:Pd-dev@lists.iem.at">Pd-dev@lists.iem.at</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>