<html><head></head><body><div style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: 12.0px;"><div>> maybe not exactly the goal here but: if get/set would need only the name of the variables and not the template,</div>
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<div>this is already possible! you just have to use "-" for the template name and the template will be deduced. See the help patch for [set] and [get].</div>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 04. Januar 2020 um 01:14 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "João Pais" <jmmmpais@gmail.com><br/>
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<b>Cc:</b> pd-dev <pd-dev@lists.iem.at><br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [PD-dev] capabilities of data structures with externals</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">maybe not exactly the goal here but: if get/set would need only the name of the variables and not the template, it would make it somewhat easier to use the same patch for different purposes. e.g. [get x y z] instead of [get somenameherewhichcanbeusedonlyinonespecificpatch x y z]</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">I guess an other way of making it faster to use pointers in complex situations would be to assign pre-defined symbol-names to pointers (which would be fixed like any other variable), instead of the codes assigned internally - but maybe that's not really feasible to program.</div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.8ex;border-left: 1.0px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left: 1.0ex;">And to add my two cents -<br/>
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The "pointer/get/set" approach to manipulating data is horribly clunky,<br/>
both unintuitive and inefficient. If you can think of a better way I'd<br/>
love to hear it.<br/>
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It seems to me that patch languages are badly suited to this kind of task -<br/>
but if one were to design a text-language style interface, what language<br/>
would be suitable? Or indeed is there a compleetely different way to think<br/>
about it? I've been wondering about this since Pd's start around 1997 :)</blockquote>
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