<div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks Dan. I have a developers account, that's how I got XCode 12.4 - you taught me that a couple of years ago ;) - and I linked to an apple site that said it'd be able to compile for arm but it failed. One way or another, I think I can give this up as I'm not sure my solution is finding a system older than monterey to build for mojave to monterey and offer a fat binary for intel and arm.</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding building a 64 bit intel external that works in OSes from at least mojave to monterey, this is already possible when building in mojave, but newer versions of macOS will complain it ain't safe and it's a hassle to allow it to load (I mentioned this in the other "building fluidsynth~" thread). It seems better to just solve this issue, but even so, I have other issues I need to figure out as I also mentioned in the other thread.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again!</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em dom., 1 de mai. de 2022 às 12:56, Dan Wilcox <<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com">danomatika@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Honestly, I don't know. I've not looked into specific versions of which Xcode can compile what. I basically just follow the normal upgrade cycle of keeping Xcode up to date with whatever macOS version I currently have. I don't care to spend much more headspace on it than that!<div><br></div><div>At some point, I couldn't build for i386 (I think some version of Xcode 10) so I removed building for x86_64. The same happened when I upgraded to some version of Xcode 12, I think, which included the SDK which includes compiler support for arm64.</div><div><br></div><div>I assumed I couldn't build i386 some time when I was on macOS 10.15 but I didn't write it down. If you want to spend the time for an answer, probably read through the Xcode release notes: <a href="https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode-release-notes" target="_blank">https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode-release-notes</a>. </div><div><br></div><div>If you want to download and try different Xcode version, there is a handy site to the downloads provided by the Apple Developer portal:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://xcodereleases.com" target="_blank">https://xcodereleases.com</a></div><div><br></div><div>You will need a developer account to access them.</div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 1, 2022, at 5:30 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres <<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Em dom., 1 de mai. de 2022 às 04:42, Dan Wilcox <<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" target="_blank">danomatika@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">You cannot build for i386. Support for that arch was famously removed in macOS 10.15 and those versions of Xcode which use its SDK, probably version 10 or so. Modern fat libs arm64 and x86_64.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Damn, double checked and tested. Using XCode 12.4 on Catalina, I was able to compile else with a fat binary for both 32/64 bits, see --> <a href="https://github.com/porres/pd-else/issues/1241#issuecomment-1114263525" target="_blank">https://github.com/porres/pd-else/issues/1241#issuecomment-1114263525</a></div><div><br></div><div>Back on Mojave, I downloaded 0.52-2 32 bits and tested the externals, it worked!</div><div><br></div><div>I can see it shouldn't, it really makes sense it should build or work, I should have known better and expected a failure and be amazed when it first compiled because it doesn't make sense, but it's happening.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, I can't build for arm64...</div><div><br></div><div>Anyone can help me solve the mistery?</div><div><br></div><div>screenshot to try to prove i'm not crazy </div><div><br></div><div><span id="gmail-m_8331104014807952632cid:ii_l2ng6ai20"><166152846-b962d8e0-6fc7-461c-a1f0-e8e04c0d9682.png></span><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><br><div dir="ltr">enohp ym morf tnes<div>-----------</div><div>Dan Wilcox</div><div><a href="http://danomatika.com/" target="_blank">danomatika.com</a></div><div><a href="http://robotcowboy.com/" target="_blank">robotcowboy.com</a></div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On May 1, 2022, at 2:51 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres <<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qui., 10 de mar. de 2022 às 19:57, Dan Wilcox <<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" target="_blank">danomatika@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>I have a fork of pd-lib-builder which supports arm64 & universal builds on macOS. The PR has been sitting for some time but we have been using it successfully for a few projects for some time now:<div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/pure-data/pd-lib-builder/pull/69" target="_blank">https://github.com/pure-data/pd-lib-builder/pull/69</a></div><div><br></div><div>To build for arm64, you need a new enough Xcode (12.2 I believe) and that's it. You can cross-compile on an x86_64 machine for arm64 and vice-versa.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So, I now have a partition with Catalina (10.15.7) and Xcode 12.4, which is the last version catalina accepts. </div><div><br></div><div>According to <a href="https://developer.apple.com/pt/support/xcode/" target="_blank">https://developer.apple.com/pt/support/xcode/</a> I believe 12.1 could have been possible already. 12.5 needs Big Sur. Here's a table from the link</div><div><br></div><div><table style="box-sizing:inherit;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:0px;margin:1em 0px;width:816.664px;font-size:12px;line-height:1.33337;letter-spacing:-0.01em;font-family:"SF Pro Text","SF Pro Icons","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;min-width:628px;color:rgb(245,245,247);background-color:rgb(0,0,0)"><thead style="box-sizing:inherit"><tr style="box-sizing:inherit"><th style="box-sizing:inherit;font-size:1em;text-align:left;padding:1em 1em 1em 0px;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(153,153,153);background-color:transparent">Versão do Xcode</th><th style="box-sizing:inherit;font-size:1em;text-align:left;padding:1em 1em 1em 0px;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(153,153,153);background-color:transparent">Sistema operacional mínimo necessário</th><th style="box-sizing:inherit;font-size:1em;text-align:left;padding:1em 1em 1em 0px;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(153,153,153);background-color:transparent">SDK</th><th style="box-sizing:inherit;font-size:1em;text-align:left;padding:1em 1em 1em 0px;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(153,153,153);background-color:transparent">Arquitetura</th><th style="box-sizing:inherit;font-size:1em;text-align:left;padding:1em 1em 1em 0px;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(153,153,153);background-color:transparent">Destinos de implantação</th><th style="box-sizing:inherit;font-size:1em;text-align:left;padding:1em 1em 1em 0px;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(153,153,153);background-color:transparent">Simulador</th><th style="box-sizing:inherit;font-size:1em;text-align:left;padding:1em 1em 1em 0px;border-bottom:1px solid rgb(153,153,153);background-color:transparent">Swift</th></tr></thead></table></div><div><br></div><div><table style="box-sizing:inherit;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:0px;margin:1em 0px;width:816.664px;font-size:12px;line-height:1.33337;letter-spacing:-0.01em;font-family:"SF Pro Text","SF Pro Icons","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;min-width:628px;color:rgb(245,245,247);background-color:rgb(0,0,0)"><tbody style="box-sizing:inherit"><tr style="box-sizing:inherit"><td style="box-sizing:inherit;padding:1em 1em 1em 0px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;vertical-align:top;font-weight:600;width:85px">Xcode 12.4</td><td style="box-sizing:inherit;padding:1em 1em 1em 0px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;vertical-align:top;width:158px">macOS Catalina 10.15.4 <span style="box-sizing:inherit;display:inline-block;text-decoration:inherit;white-space:nowrap">(Mac com processador Intel)</span><br style="box-sizing:inherit"><br style="box-sizing:inherit">macOS Big Sur 11<br style="box-sizing:inherit"><span style="box-sizing:inherit;display:inline-block;text-decoration:inherit;white-space:nowrap">(Mac com Apple Silicon)</span></td><td style="box-sizing:inherit;padding:1em 1em 1em 0px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;vertical-align:top">iOS 14.4<br style="box-sizing:inherit">macOS 11.1<br style="box-sizing:inherit">tvOS 14.3<br style="box-sizing:inherit">watchOS 7.2<br style="box-sizing:inherit">DriverKit 20.2</td><td style="box-sizing:inherit;padding:1em 1em 1em 0px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;vertical-align:top">x86_64<br style="box-sizing:inherit">armv7<br style="box-sizing:inherit">armv7s<br style="box-sizing:inherit">armv7k<br style="box-sizing:inherit">arm64<br style="box-sizing:inherit">arm64e<br style="box-sizing:inherit">arm64_32</td><td style="box-sizing:inherit;padding:1em 1em 1em 0px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;vertical-align:top">iOS 9-14.4<br style="box-sizing:inherit">iPadOS 13-14.4<br style="box-sizing:inherit">macOS 10.9-11.1<br style="box-sizing:inherit">tvOS 9-14.3<br style="box-sizing:inherit">watchOS 2-7.2<br style="box-sizing:inherit">DriverKit 19-20.2</td></tr></tbody></table></div><div> </div><div>It says it can build for 'arm64' alright, but I tried creating a fat binary for both intel and M1 as I was doing in my monterey partition and didn't succeed. I'm using pd-lib-builder, verdsion 6.0, so I did:</div><div><br></div><div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">make install objectsdir=../ arch="i386 x86_64" extension=d_fat and that works just fine</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">but...</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">make install objectsdir=../ arch="arm64 x86_64" extension=d_fat fails miserably, this is what I get</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><b>/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/SDKs/MacOSX10.15.sdk/usr/include/sys/cdefs.h:807:2: </b></span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(202,51,35)"><b>error: </b></span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><b>Unsupported architecture</b></span></div><p style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo">






</p><div style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">#error Unsupported architecture</span></div>





</div><div><br></div><div>What should I do?</div><div><br></div><div>My attempt here is to be able to build a binary for fluidsynth~ that works for a wide range of OSes</div><div><br></div><div>thanks</div><div>cheers</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:30 PM, <a href="mailto:pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at" target="_blank">pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at</a> wrote:</div><br><div><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Message: 2</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 17:57:23 -0300</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">From: Alexandre Torres Porres <</span><a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">></span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">To: Sebastian Shader <</span><a href="mailto:sebfumaster@aol.com" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">sebfumaster@aol.com</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">></span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Cc: "</span><a href="mailto:pd-dev@lists.iem.at" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">pd-dev@lists.iem.at</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">" <</span><a href="mailto:pd-dev@lists.iem.at" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-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