for those of you that haven't seen it already, this excellent latency report was retreived from the LAD list. guess which came first - though only by half a millisecond ; ) OsX came out v'well and also Win2000. http://mambo.peabody.jhu.edu/~karlmac/publications/latency-icmc2001.pdf de| _ / a -> b, b ->c, a -> d, d -> c ...and so on... \ _