[PD] Local "variable" names question + messages

[Josh Steiner]

yeah, its really just another arbitrary aspect of a programming language 
(remember folks, pd is a programming language, not fruity loops or 
cakewalk :)

other examples of weird rules you just have to read up on and memorize:

* hot and cold inlets.
* depth first execution
* messages passed based on the order of how you connect objects

so while it took me quite a while to get comforable with $1's, it does 
make a certain sense.  programming is a bitch :)

now, i think the notation could be changed to reflect arguments to the 
parent patch and arguments to the object, but it would break 
compatability across _all_ pd, max and jmax patches ever made... kind of 
a high cost :)

-josh

Ben Bogart - FMPM/F1999 wrote:

>What would you suggest as an alternative to $1 in object boxes? $1 works 
>the same as in MAX for messages, what does MAX use in object boxes? 
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>I'm happy about how it works now, and not really in the mood to change 
>all my patches! ;)
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>Ben
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>On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Joseph Zitt wrote:
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>>On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:43:29 -0700
>>Miller Puckette <mpuckett at man104-1.ucsd.edu> wrote:
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>>>I think it might be unwise... The "$" meanings in objects and messages
>>>are actually the same; the text is simply interpeted in different
>>>contexts.
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>>Well, I think what we may be hitting here is the frequent gap between
>>programmer and end-user perceptions. By saying that they "are actually
>>the same", I suspect that you're coming from seeing that they share the
>>same code (I'm not sure, not being quite able to interpret the code
>>itself). However, from the viewpoint of someone using the program
>>without knowledge of the innards of the source, they are quite
>>different and behave quite differently. I believe I've seen this issue
>>come up a few times; in such cases, I've found that changing the
>>documentation tends to be less effective than enhancing the interface.
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