[PD] pd as a vst instrument plugin, now also looking or vst1.0.zip

[Mark Khemma]

Vroom! right over my head :), but that's ok, i'm starting to learn
sound programming little  by little, but right now, my problem is that
steinberg has moved up to  v2.0-2.2 and  the example dll's which i
compiled won't work with my logic  audio becaue the version i have will
only (i think) work with vst v1.0 so  if anybody has the vstsdk1.0.zip
laying around that they could send me  i would greatly appreciate it. Just
out of curiousity what applications  are currently compatible with
vst2.0/2.2? i think logic 5 is but i don't  have that, yet. if there are
freewarez audio apps that can use vst 2.0/2.2 then i can at least start
playin around with the  examplevst.dll's-compile-run.in.soundapp, anybody
know of any pc apps?
cheerio's,
	Mark .k

On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, mark wrote:

> PD as a VST should be fairly easy audiowise.
>
> The VST framework expects to do a call and get a chunk of audio.
> So what you need to do is remove portaudio and replace it with
> a harness that slots into VST. The port audio code isn't the easiest
> to follow but ocne you get your head round it it should be straigt
> forward.
>
> GUI wise you might have a little more difficulty - the VST Host will
> provide
> you with the handle to a windows window (HWND). Ideally you just want
> to make this the parent window of the TK windows. I have no idea how
> hard this is or even if you can make TK use this window for its own
> display.
>
> VST is very easy (assuming you have an instrument/effect of course :-)
> ). The
> example code in the sdk is probably all you need once you have the
> window thing
> sussed.
>
> cheers
>
> mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pd-list-admin at iem.kug.ac.at [mailto:pd-list-admin at iem.kug.ac.at]
> On Behalf Of stefan geissler
> Sent: 06 November 2002 14:46
> To: Mark Khemma
> Cc: Joseph A. Sarlo; PD List
> Subject: Re: [PD] pd as a vst instrument plugin
>
>
> I have also no programming skills and I am very interested in getting pd
>
> to work in a vstenviroment, too. preferably
> in a similar manner as reaktor can be controlled from a vsthost. as far
> as I understood the whole thing isnot so trivial
> (the vstside, the pdside, the gui) and if there is enough interest I
> think that efforts in that direction should be coordinated. there were
> several postings about this concern over the recent years,
> but it seems that nothing ever really happned.
> what came next to use pd "inside" a vsthost was pdauto
> <http://mamalala.de/xovo/pdauto.html> with sending parameters over the
> tcpport, but this method causes
> a too high latency and the gui is visible just in some vsthosts i.e.
> just testing the whole thing and getting it to work on more than one
> host seems to be a kind of challenge.
>
> Mark Khemma wrote:
>
> >How are going about compiling it? are you using cygwin environment, or
> >VC++ IDE, etc? I'd like to know more of what you are doing. Where does
> >gripd come into it? etc. etc. If there is anyway in which i can help..
> >. my yearn to program skillfully exceeds my abilities so if you  could
> >just help me set up an environment to compile dll's on windows, what
> >files are needed, files modified, etc (if you know how to) then pass
> >the word :) i'd like to see pd in my logic plugins :) cheerios,
> >mark .k
> >
> >On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Joseph A. Sarlo wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>I actually just started working on this.  My first step is to have PD
> >>as a VST effect plugin (not instrument), where the PD patch is opened
> >>in some kind of PD-VST shell (probably using GrIPD for the effect's
> >>GUI), but eventually I think it would be good to support the VST
> >>instrument architecture. No promises on when it will be ready, though!
> >>
> >>Joe
> >>jsarlo at ucsd.edu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I was just wondering if it is feasible to have pd act as a vst
> >>>instrument, much like the way reaktor works within environments such
> >>>as sonar, calkwalk, logic audio platinum. maybe mark junklight may
> >>>have some insight into this area.  I'm curious if it would be
> >>>possible or if there would be any/many complications considering that
>
> >>>the gui portion uses tcl/tk (is it both or one of them?). personally
> >>>i don't even have the skills to import the makefile of pd into a VC++
>
> >>>workspace and compile, so I'm not the best person to get the project
> >>>jump started.  All i know is that vst plugins are simply .dll's
> >>>(placed into a vstplugin
> >>>folder) in addition to  extra files which are configuration files (in
> our
> >>>case simply .pd files) . I'd be so happy if i could use pd within my
> >>>logic audio program.
> >>>just curious,
> >>> Mark .k
> >>>
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