[PD] GEM vs Jitter a newbie request for opinions

[Patrick Pagano]

Ben i have to disagree
I have seen and used both and GEM (at least the G4 build) is amazing. i 
will try jitter again, but they seem to embody their names when it 
comes to quality.



On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 11:54 AM, <ben at ekran.org> wrote:

> Hey Jhave,
>
> I've only tinkered with jitter, but I know a lot of jitter users. First
> off Gem is A LOT easier to learn than jitter. The way you patch is much
> more clear and intuitive. This is becuase there is no matrix operation
> stuff as there is in jitter. This makes Gem less powerful than jitter.
> What do you want to do with the video? Are you doing any matrix stuff 
> at
> all?
>
> For resources I just taught 120 college students Gem in two classes, 2
> hours each. I have the lecture online at:
>
> http://www.ekran.org/pd/PD-Lecture.tgz
>
> It's an interactive PD patch so you should learn lots. Also Chris 
> Clepper
> has some tutorials on his site at:
>
> http://taproot.dyndns.org/~cgc/tutorial_gem/index.html
>
> There are a large number of Graphics/Video libs for PD including: 
> GridFlow
> (matrix operations), Framestein (windows only), PDP (something more 
> like
> softVideo), and PiDiP (nice extra stuff on top of PDP), and of course 
> Gem.
>
> I just did a performance in collaboration with a jitter guy this week,
> I'll encode some video and have it online at some point in the next 
> couple
> weeks. (Bottom line is they work well together, and there is a nice
> aesthetic balance)
>
> Mathieu and Gem-devs:
> I've been doing a lot of matrix related stuff with Gem lately driven 
> by my
> PSO object, and its a little awkward. (Like interpolating 24*8*5 vertex
> positions etc..) With Chris's vertex array stuff is there a 
> possibility of
> using gridflow for matrix operations to be passed onto Gem for 
> attaching
> to openGL? I would be very interesting in seeing such a connection. Are
> either party's interested? I have some example patches to show off 
> what I
> mean by awkwardness if required!
>
> Ben
>
>>
>> Hello PD-gurus,
>>
>> I'm a comp-sci student and artist just learning Max and PD,
>> and i am beginning a project involving video,
>>
>> does anyone out there have any comments or suggestions
>> on the relative learnability of Gem vs Jitter? (if so what resources
>> exist?) and is Gem as powerful as Jitter?
>>
>> all comments appreciated,
>>
>> jhave
>>
>>
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