hi, Sunday, June 13, 2004 6:02:20 PM carmen wrote: c> http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://gigue.peabody.jhu.edu/~karlmac/ c> do the t.gz links work for you? im rather interested in that GTK+ pd gui.... is this what you are looking for ? : http://www.xdv.org/archive/software/gige/pd/pd-gui-p1.tar.gz -- Best regs, Yury mailto:yurolog at mail.ur.ru