[PD] lost messages (toxy vs. pd ???)

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Jul 24, 2004, at 9:49 AM, Tim Blechmann wrote:

>> you seem to be sending an empty list -- check if this is the case
>> with an explicit 'list' message.  This is usually a synonim for 'bang'
>> (e.g. if sent to a [print]), but not always (e.g. not for a [v], which
>> ignores it).
> wait ... if i understand it correctly, a bang is represented by either
> an empty list or a "bang" message, the function class_addbang is only
> working for the message bang...
> "print" is also using the class_addlist function that's working for
> empty lists, too...
>
> for me that's a bug in the _language_ pd ... since it can take hours to
> figure that out ...

I agree that this behavior is problematic because its counter-intuitive  
plus I don't see much or any benefit to having an empty list  
interpreted as a bang.  Does anyone have any killer examples to  
convince us?

.hc

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