[PD] Re: [PD-dev] pdogg hacks

[B. Bogart]

Hey Olaf,

At first I was suprised that the MAX versions of the ogg stuff were
non-free, as a MAXer had mentioned. Now all versions are non-free? How
does this relate to the work you have been doing for Zack Settle for
Open Territories? (Which has to be GPL). Are you still planning on
releasing some sub-portion of your work under the GPL (as Thomas Grill
is doing?)

Since versions were freely distributed this does mean that any of us
would be free to continue to develop it as a fork from your old free
versions? As long as they do not include code from your new non-free
versions?

Anyhow just looking for a little clarification.

b>

rama wrote:
> El jue, 26-05-2005 a las 00:00 +0200, Olaf Matthes escribió:
>
>>rama wrote:
>>
>>>-- now --
>>>
>>>i've done some hacks to the pdogg lib from Olaf Matthes
>>>(Olaf: are you still around?)
>>
>>Yes, more or less.
>
>
> cool! thx for the reply
>
>
>>>which have the following changelog:
>>
>>So you didn't find the threadlocking bug in oggamp~? :-)
>
>
> hmm not really, I use oggamp~ quite much, and for many (and I mean a
> lot) of hours it works without problems.
>
> well... actually I was having some pd freezes recently when I moved to
> kernel 2.6, but now it seems fine. (as I said on the original post
> you've replied)
>
> what I did was at least those critical bugfixed I've mentioned (however
> I'm not really a C hacker but can handle some easy stuff it seems) which
> were quite annoying and easy to fix.
>
> i plan to continue working on the pdogg lib if you don't mind as you
> left it orphaned ;)
>
>
>>But seriously, I could post a much longer bugfix list, there are much
>>more things that would need a change.
>
>
> it would be helpful if you'd post this somewhere, or send it to me
> offlist so I can try to handle that.
>
>
>>But I'm sorry to say that I stopped development of this code as
>>open-source and didn't want to start
>>a war and thus never posted on the pd-list that these objects are now
>>available for a small fee (small concidering the amount of time that
>>went into it) at http://www.nullmedium.de/dev/oggpro/.
>
>
> aha. I've hit nullmedium & oggpro, but didn't know you where part of it.
>
> actually it's very sad to hear that someone who was doing open source,
> and great stuff, starts to release binaries only, be it for a small fee
> or none at all.
>
> i wouldn't like to offend you, but this really means a retro-gression
> (does this word exist??). you know what I mean.
>
> with the evolution of the open source and the knowledge sharing, I can't
> really understand that someone can step back again to the "closed"
> conception.
>
> and you say "small fee considering the amount of time that went into
> it". then what about pd itself?? much more time and people were and are
> involved (and each time more i think) and it's still free (gratis) and
> open.
>
> thanks for reading
> shönnen tag,
> r
>
>
>>Olaf
>>
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