[PD] set up for pd on linux? -- ubuntu

[vincent rioux]

ok thanks for all these remarks,
then if i understood you well, you point out pbs with gnome/kde and 
upgrades in Ubuntu (by the way installing kde from (G)Ubuntu is a one 
step process: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop).

may i just add that my experience of Ubuntu showed me that :
- it is easy to set-up fluxbox (which might be preferable for 
performances reasons and provides a clear interface :-).
- if you stick to universe and multiverse sources (in 
/apt/get/sources.list), it is quite sure that you won't end up with an 
unstable system.

finally, i would just like to say that Ubuntu is a good choice for 
debian/linux beginners (like me).
I would agree with you Frank, that one would probably get more freedom 
with a genuine debian install or a gentoo for example, but still, it 
seems to me that it requires a substantial  extra-amount of knowledge 
and time.

best,
vincent

Frank Barknecht wrote:

>Hallo,
>vincent rioux hat gesagt: // vincent rioux wrote:
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>>And well, i was using ubuntu - that i would recommend for its
>>simplicity (i found it quite easy and reliable to setup a
>>debian-like install this way).
>>
>>Frank, could you may be explain a bit more what were your thoughts
>>concerning this distro?
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>Maybe I'm just spoiled by the recent upgrade of my Ubuntu laptop,
>where a lot of stuff broke, like all fonts were displayed way too
>large, I got german menus instead of english ones, and when I changed
>the locale, I couldn't type umlauts anymore etc. Everything was really
>annoying, because I already had configured all that to my liking
>months ago and now I had to do it again. 
>
>Worse yet: Configuring something on (G)Ubuntu means using Gnome, which
>often doesn't let you configure everything you want, at least not, if
>it's considered to be esoteric like using a german keyboard with an
>otherwise english-language desktop.
>
>So I'm pretty disappointed with the upgrade behaviour, which seems to
>work flawlessly only, if you're a typical Ubuntu/Gnome user. And I
>think, many Pd/audio users are not typical Gnome or KDE users. A
>machine, which will be used in performances or installations with Pd
>probably won't have (to have) Gnome or KDE installed at all. That's
>why personally I wouldn't recommend to use Ubuntu on such a
>"performance" machine, but of course, YMMV.
>
>Additionally it seems, that cross-upgrades from Ubuntu to Debian are
>very tricky. I'm currently trying to do that to convert my laptop's
>system to a real Debian again.
>
>Ciao
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