[PD] strange crash with patch on OSX

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Mon Feb 20 16:17:25 CET 2006


Do you have an object called [xsample] in any of those patches?  That  
would maybe explain this message:

>>> xsample
>>> ... couldn't create

AFAIK, the library is called xsample, but the xsample objects are  
called something else.  Maybe that is somehow related to the crash?

.hc

On Feb 20, 2006, at 3:37 AM, altern wrote:

> Hans-Christoph Steiner(e)k dio:
>> My guess is that its related to the libraries that you are loading.   
>> Try loading it with no libraries, then add each one in separately and  
>> maybe you can track down the crash.
>
> yes, but the funny thing is that i can start PD and create a py object  
> and xsample object. It is only when I load the subpatch containing  
> xsample when it crashes. I think i am going to have to waste some time  
> debugging this. It is really weird that it ws working really fine in  
> another mac machine with same OS version and pd version.
>
> thanks anyway
>
>> On Feb 19, 2006, at 4:01 PM, altern wrote:
>>> ok,
>>>
>>> now i get this in the console, any ideas?
>>>
>>> xxx:~ xx$
>>> /Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC8.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd  
>>> -stderr
>>> /Users/xx/ixi/pd/autoloop/autoloop.pd
>>> set it
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>> py/pyext 0.2.1pre - python script objects
>>> (C)2002-2005 Thomas Grill - http://grrrr.org/ext
>>>
>>> using Python 2.3 (#1, Sep 13 2003, 00:49:11)
>>> [GCC 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1495)]
>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> -------------------------------
>>> xsample objects, version 0.3.1
>>>
>>>   xrecord~, xplay~, xgroove~
>>>   (C)2001-2005 Thomas Grill
>>> -------------------------------
>>>  xsample
>>> ... couldn't create
>>> Pd: signal 4
>>> closing audio...
>>> closing MIDI...
>>> ... done.
>>> pd_gui: pd process exited
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner(e)k dio:
>>>> Right, I forgot you need to have Wish Shell.app installed to run pd  
>>>> from the command line on Mac OS X.  You can either install this:
>>>> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/tcltkaqua/TclTkAqua-8.4.9.dmg? 
>>>> download
>>>> or open Pd, go to Preferences -> Startup... and add -stderr to the  
>>>> startup flags.
>>>> Then you can view the Pd output by running  
>>>> /Applications/Utilities/Console.app.
>>>> .hc
>>>> On Feb 17, 2006, at 7:10 AM, altern wrote:
>>>>> It didnt do anything or post any error, just command not found if i
>>>>> remember well, this is why i tried sudo
>>>>>
>>>>> I have installed the latest updates for this version of OSX  
>>>>> (10.3.9) just in case there was something wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> i tried again now, i copy from the mac console output
>>>>>
>>>>> xx$  
>>>>> /Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC8.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd  
>>>>> -stderr
>>>>> set it
>>>>> sh: line 1: /Applications/Wish Shell.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish Shell  
>>>>> : No
>>>>> such file or directory
>>>>>
>>>>> and stays there, i need to do control+Z to stop de process
>>>>> weird isnt it? And i havent even tried opening the patch that  
>>>>> causes the
>>>>> crash
>>>>>
>>>>> I try now with latest millers distro, 0.39-2
>>>>> well ... funny, it does work, just the two externals I use are  
>>>>> missing (xsample and pyext).
>>>>> I copy the externals from your distro into millers.
>>>>> I get some weird errors I didnt get before coming from the xsample  
>>>>> object but it does not crash and pyext runs fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> I try now with command line.
>>>>> Pd-0.39-2 runs ok, yours did the same as i described above.
>>>>> xx$  
>>>>> /Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC8.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd  
>>>>> -stderr
>>>>> set it
>>>>> sh: line 1: /Applications/Wish Shell.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish Shell  
>>>>> : No
>>>>> such file or directory
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't need sudo.
>>>>>> It should be the actual path to your Pd.app, you either not using  
>>>>>> RC7 or you don't have it installed into /Applications
>>>>>> .  This part will be the same:
>>>>>>  Contents/Resources/bin/pd
>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2006, at 11:25 AM, altern wrote:
>>>>>>> mmm .. it says :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> xx$ sudo  
>>>>>>> /Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extendedRC7/Contents/Resources/bin/pd  
>>>>>>> -stderr : command not found
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it is really weird crash, i never had something like this  
>>>>>>> before. I might have to go and do step by step debugging. quite  
>>>>>>> annoying.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks hans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner(e)k dio:
>>>>>>>> You should try running Pd from the command line with the  
>>>>>>>> -stderr flag, then you'll see the error message:
>>>>>>>> /Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extendedRC7/Contents/Resources/bin/pd  
>>>>>>>> -stderr
>>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2006, at 11:23 AM, altern wrote:
>>>>>>>>> hi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Recently i moved to an old ibook, installed the syste same as  
>>>>>>>>> in the old computer which was btw a one year old powerbook,  
>>>>>>>>> the only thing i didnt install was the apple devel cdrom.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now i find that an old patch that worked fine in my old  
>>>>>>>>> machine crashes pd while gets loaded. I get no error message.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The funny problem seems to happen when i call from the main  
>>>>>>>>> patch an abstraction i use to play samples. This one uses  
>>>>>>>>> xsample and the main patch uses pyext. But both externals seem  
>>>>>>>>> to work fine when i use them in a other patches.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i am really confused by this. I cannot imagine what it is that  
>>>>>>>>> causes the crash. This happens with both latest versions of  
>>>>>>>>> hans Pd installers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> any tips?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- enrike
>>>>>>>>>
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