[PD] GRiPD and shell don't play well together

[John Harrison]

It seems like there are a couple of options for GUI interfaces other 
than GRiPD, and I didn't know this. Can you say more about toxy, the 
Graph on Parent or tcl-tk widgets made by ix and MIXed or any other 
technique? How can I learn more about these as related specifically to 
GUI interface building? More important to me than the runtime results 
--- are these as quick as GRiPD in building the interface? I can throw 
together a GUI interface in GRiPD that is presentable to users very 
quickly. That is extremely important to me as I am building rough 
prototypes which undergo rapid changes in very limited time. If these 
other techniques also offer those quick results, I am interested. If 
not...I would just as soon build my own widgets in wxPython and 
communicate to them w/ sockets when I am ready for more than a rough 
prototype. And, until then, I'll use GriPD for its speed in the 
development process. I'm not having any CPU load issues.

-John

Patco wrote:
> alberto.zin at poste.it a écrit :
>> The GUI itself was not hungry in terms of cpu load (the 46% you can 
>> see in the screenshot is just the 128 bp filters in parallel in the 
>> patch ;-)
>>   
> puredata.info is too busy and doesn't respond, could you put your 
> screenshot anywhere else?
>> I like toxy, but we should admit that TclTk is not the optimum; 
>> GriPd, imo, is a bit superior and more similar to a "professional" 
>> user interface
>> (let me say like VST instruments or even Reaktor widgets)
> What makes you think that GRIPD is that good?
> It's very limited, the (ugly) widgets provided can't be hacked to get 
> a better looking,
> and I severly doubt that it's possible to make something as neat as 
> the most basic tcl-tk widget, let's say ix:: dd for example.
> No, I do not admit that GRIPD is superior, I think it's inferior, pd 
> GOP can be dynamic, GRIPD couldn't.
>
>>  
>> Of course we have examples of wonderful interfaces in
>> plain PD (using Graph on Parent, ... ), don't you think?
>>
>>   
> Using graph-of-parent is less complicated and more efficient.
> With adding toxy/widget, a pd interface could even blow a professional 
> user interface, but it requires some skills in tcl scripting, or just
> *sarcastic mode*
> brain cells for figuring out how to use tcl-tk widgets for using the 
> work made by ix and MiXed.
> *end of sarcastic mode*,
> salutations,
> Patco.
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