[PD] newbie growing pains...
hans at eds.org
Sun Feb 25 07:51:33 CET 2007
On Feb 20, 2007, at 9:14 PM, Derek Holzer wrote:
> Hi Jared,
> for what it's worth, I've been working with PD for years and I still
> can't read most other people's patches ;-)
> Everybody has their own style, their own "handwriting", and some are
> more readable than others. Diving right into somebody's finished patch
> is pretty difficult for an experienced user, and almost impossible
> for a
> beginner, I'd say! If you were trying to learn German, would you start
> by reading Goethe?
Partially, I think this is due to lack of common practice in coding
style and things like that. Most languages, programming or other,
have a lot of standard practices when it comes to writing them done
in different contexts. For whatever reason, the Pd/Max world has not
developed many conventions, and I think that makes reading other
people's patches harder.
> I learned PD by reproducing things which I understood already in
> such as going from a quad-panner, a mixer, a sampler and a
> delay-network, to complex feedback-FM, a granular synthesizer and an
> algorithmic sequencer...etc etc. First I played around with the
> examples, then I made simple things and basic utilities. After that I
> went back to the examples I skipped and figured out what I did wrong,
> and then I moved on to "porting" things from other apps I had used
> before and knew the structure of (AudioMulch units, Reaktor
> various VSTs, etc). These kinds of exercises are the ones I think work
> best. Start from a point you know, and figure out how to do it with
> most basic objects in PD. If core PD doesn't do it, then it's time to
> reach for an external.
> jared wrote:
>> obvious similarities, but the more time I spend with PD the more they
>> feel like different beasts. I will definitely go back and start
>> square one with PD.
> derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl
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