[PD] apt get for abstractions

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Mon Apr 2 05:45:25 CEST 2007


Maybe the curl thing would be possible using Martin Peach's tcp objects?

.hc

On Mar 15, 2007, at 7:44 PM, Alexandre Quessy wrote:

> Maybe we should finish that curl external I kind of started several
> months ago. With the HCS tools, we would have enough low-level
> externals to do it in Pd. Someone wants to help with that piece of
> code ? It is such a mess. I just need to add threads into that to
> avoid it to die stupidly. (see attached file)
>
> a
>
>
> 2007/3/12, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>:
>>
>> Yeah, that code could be turned into a library then used for the
>> versioning for this Pd apt-get.  The other parts include a common
>> library/package format (like finishing up libdir support) and a
>> common repository format that's easy to setup.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Mar 12, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
>>
>> > I haven't used Net-Pd that much, but doesn't it use a sort of  
>> system
>> > to keep patches up to date?
>> >
>> > ~Kyle
>> >
>> > On 3/12/07, Stephen Sinclair <radarsat1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> what if you could refer to abstractions using URLs?  a caching  
>> system
>> >> could take care of reducing the need to be connected at all times.
>> >> something like ZeroInstall for example.
>> >>
>> >> or perhaps using Java-style class paths, especially if URLs  
>> could be
>> >> included in the class path.
>> >>
>> >> would this lead to very long abstraction names? we could solve
>> >> this by
>> >> providing an "alias" object, so that any abstractions mentioned  
>> in a
>> >> patch that are prepended by the given alias are replaced with the
>> >> alias' URL.  Then the "alias" could be used as the "base  
>> address" for
>> >> the abstraction names.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Steve
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 3/11/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I think this would be very useful.  It should be as easy to set
>> >>> up as
>> >>> possible, some kind of minimal setup based on HTTP like basic  
>> apt-
>> >>> get
>> >>> repositories.  Eclipse's repository format is worth checking out.
>> >>>
>> >>> I think we should build it in Pd for maximum portability and
>> >>> maintainability.  Pd programmers will always be able to write  
>> in Pd.
>> >>> But that's not always the case for C or other programming  
>> languages.
>> >>>
>> >>> .hc
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:28 PM, Alexandre Quessy wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Sure,
>> >>>> But such a system should be as portable as Pd. Such a system
>> >>>> should be
>> >>>> in C, I guess, for maximum portability.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Like APT, I find the pear package system very nice too. It  
>> would be
>> >>>> very easy to adapt, but it is in PHP. It uses XML to store
>> >>>> informations about the files hierarchy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Marc Lavallée told me about a simple package system that would
>> >>>> be easy
>> >>>> to adapt, but I forgot its name. Marc ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Such a topic might fit better in the pd-dev list.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Alex
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2007/3/11, adam armfield <adamairmailed at yahoo.com>:
>> >>>>> following on from the ongoing debate about bundles for
>> >>>>> patches with many abstractions, I had the idea for an
>> >>>>> apt-get style system, where someone who wants a patch
>> >>>>> can enter a command & get all necessary abstractions
>> >>>>> at the same time...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
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