[PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc1 released

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Mon Apr 16 22:23:13 CEST 2007


On Apr 16, 2007, at 3:53 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:

> Hallo,
> Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
>> On Apr 15, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
>>> Ah, okay. I was just encountering these kinds of overlapping  
>>> comments
>>> in some other patches by other people as well so I was fearing, that
>>> it might an incompatibility with patches written using pd- 
>>> extended and
>>> us old-school Courier folks.
>>
>> There are probably also incompatibilities in the patches.  There
>> definitely are size incompatibilities between the new font Pd-
>> extended and other pd versions.
>
> So now there *are* size incompatibilities with Miller's Pd? I'm just
> asking to be prepared, I don't run the Pd from pd-extended, I prefer a
> plain MSP-Pd in the latest version.

>> There are incompatibilities between  different versions of Pd (0.38,
>> 0.39, 0.40), and each of those  versions different platforms
>> (Windows, GNU/Linux and Mac OS X).  This  version is the same size
>> to the pixel on each platform.  There is, of  course, no way that
>> the new sizes could be compatible with all of  variations.  But I
>> hope you'll agree that this is a better situation.
>
> Of course having Pd look the same on all platforms is a good goal, and
> Miller also supported this in the past. I'm not against solving this
> at all.  But of course incompatibilities should be kept to a minimum,
> I hope you'll agree with that. (Besides the OS-issues, no versions of
> MSP-Pd that I've used, had size-incompatibilities when using the same
> font.)

I might have been wrong about the version-to-version  
incompatibilities.  I attached a patch that has the size differences  
that I have measured.  Please fill in anything that you might have  
measured.
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One thing that I did forget to mention is that the relationship  
between the font sizes between the iemguis and the object boxes is  
different on each platform.  That is also fixed now, (i.e. 12 points  
is now the same size in iemguis/boxes on all platforms)  That will of  
course, break the layout of a lot of patches.

> I'm just a bit worrind: Now that you've released new fonts into the
> (pd-extended) wild, there's an additional, new variable to consider
> with regard to compatibility when going further with font
> enhancements.

The goal is to fix this problem with the least pain possible.  That  
said, there will undoubtedly be some pain because the current  
situation is less than good.

.hc

>
> Ciao
> -- 
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