[PD] RSI . Was Re: GEM: animations

Kyle Klipowicz kyleklip at gmail.com
Tue Apr 24 08:49:42 CEST 2007


You know, that sort of makes sense. I was getting these RSI feelings
from working at my job, but then when I got laid off, they went
away...

~Kyle

On 4/23/07, Kevin McCoy <km.takewithyou at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes I had an "injury" months ago and I wanted to use desiredata because of
> that.  What actually helped me was the writing of Dr. John Sarno ("The
> Mind-Body Prescription" - sounds new-agey but it's not really) - the premise
> is that most RSI is psychosomatic, and dwelling on it prolongs the pain.  I
> thought about bringing this up on the list before.  Attentiveness to this
> (among other mind-work) solved the problem for me - highly recommended work.
>  Steal the book or borrow it from a library - at least in America we are a
> heavily overmedicated/hyperdiagnosed society imho.
>
> I have heard that in countries where people have not heard of RSI people
> don't really get it.  I can't back that up, but it would be interesting if
> it is in fact true.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>  On 4/22/07, Alexandre Quessy <listes at sourcelibre.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > The desiredata crowd have done quite a lot of work to help prevent this.
> :)
> >
> > a
> >
> > 2007/4/22, Olivier Heinry <olivier.heinry at manga-burgah.net>:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Help fight agains
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repetitive_strain_injury
> > > Get up and stretch your back !!
> > >
> > >  http://www.workrave.org/welcome/
> > >
> > >  ++
> > >  O.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------
> > >
> > > 2007/4/19, Hans-Christoph Steiner < hans at eds.org>:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 18, 2007, at 10:33 PM, Alexandre Quessy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > 2007/4/18, Kyle Klipowicz < kyleklip at gmail.com>:
> > > > >> I'm sorry, I don't have [gems/duplicate] in the version of pdmtl
> that
> > > > >> I just downloaded. It looks like a neat library though, will it be
> > > > >> included in pd-extended soon?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://devel.goto10.org/pdmtl/browser/trunk/pdmtl/gems/
> > > > > duplicate.pd !!
> > > > >
> > > > > I got to put it in the pd-extended build system, yes... It's just
> that
> > > > > I am having troubles with the Makefile. I need to translate
> something
> > > > > like "cp -r * /usr/lib/pd/extra/" into some recursive Makefiles
> unsing
> > > > > "install -d" and such...
> > > > >
> > > > > See
> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-dev@iem.at/msg01399.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help around ? I think the best way to do it would be to copy
> > > > > makefiles around and then :
> > > > >
> > > > > find . -type d | xargs cd && make; done
> > > > >
> > > > > Or something... got to test. I will have more time in May. :)
> > > >
> > > > It seems that pdmtl really needs to have multi-level namespaces.
> > > > Perhaps in May we could work on making that happen.
> > > >
> > > > .hc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > a
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I will try to experiment with [repeat], since it is getting
> > > > >> tedious to
> > > > >> manipulate more than 5 or 6 separate objects in the 'gemiverse.'
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ~Kyle
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 4/18/07, Alexandre Quessy <listes at sourcelibre.com> wrote:
> > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > >>> Consider using the [repeat] object along with [separator]...
> > > > >>> See [gems/duplicate] in the SVN repository of the
> > > > >>> http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> a
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> 2007/4/17, Cypod <cypod25 at gmail.com>:
> > > > >>>> Roman is right, just parenting down the chain, with small sphere
> > > > >>>> (proxy
> > > > >>>> geometry) to change the pivot control, from the center to one
> end.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> where separators come into play is to branch off arms and legs
> > > > >>>> from the main
> > > > >>>> body. The body's transform will still control the arm, but
> sibling
> > > > >>>> hierarchies wont affect each other. That way you can move the
> > > > >>>> body of the
> > > > >>>> character and the arms don't fall off, but if you rotate the
> > > > >>>> left shoulder
> > > > >>>> it wont affect the right shoulder or legs.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Thats how I created the dancing man patch, from a wow (World of
> > > > >>>> War-craft)
> > > > >>>> character that my friend build. Its still somewhat crude, but
> > > > >>>> fun to be able
> > > > >>>> to control characters in real-time during your performance.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On 4/17/07, Kyle Klipowicz < kyleklip at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>> Ok, yes. After tinkering last night a bit I found that it is
> > > > >>>>> indeed
> > > > >>>>> this simple. For some reason I was getting confused, based upon
> > > > >>>>> where
> > > > >>>>> I was putting the separators for different branches of the
> > > > >>>>> structure.
> > > > >>>>> I like this top-down approach. It makes it easy to add global
> > > > >>>>> modifiers at the top of the gem chain.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> ~Kyle
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On 4/17/07, Roman Haefeli < reduzierer at yahoo.de> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>> On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 23:32 -0500, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>> Ok, that was a dumb question, after looking at separator.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> But it raises some questions for me: is the best way to
> position
> > > > >>>>>>> multi-geo unit, say of a sphere being orbited by smaller
> > > > >>>>>>> spheres, best
> > > > >>>>>>> accomplished by using a lot of additions, or is there a way
> > > > >>>>>>> to chain
> > > > >>>>>>> translate objects?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> if i understand you correctly, this is _very_ simple to
> > > > >>>>>> achieve. here an
> > > > >>>>>> example of a renderchain:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> [gemhead]
> > > > >>>>>> |
> > > > >>>>>> [translateXYZ] <- translate the whole planet system
> > > > >>>>>> around
> > > > >>>>>> |
> > > > >>>>>> [sphere 1] <- sun
> > > > >>>>>> |
> > > > >>>>>> [rotateXYZ] <- rotate around Y-axis
> > > > >>>>>> |
> > > > >>>>>> [translateXYZ 2 0 0 ]
> > > > >>>>>> |
> > > > >>>>>> [sphere 0.1] <- earth
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> you can also add the moon:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> |
> > > > >>>>>> [rotateXYZ] <- rotate around Y-axis
> > > > >>>>>> |
> > > > >>>>>> [translate 0.2]
> > > > >>>>>> |
> > > > >>>>>> [sphere 0.03]
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> hope, that makes it clear how to 'resolve dependencies' in gem.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> roman
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > >
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