[PD] That's a surprising new look
marius schebella
marius.schebella at gmail.com
Wed Oct 10 20:35:52 CEST 2007
with the level of virtuosity you also want to demand new levels of
requirements. it is not about displaying a visualization of the
programming flow or readability of code, it is only about efficiency and
user interaction.
for other situations than performance or user interface, this feature is
not necessary, I have to admit.
marius.
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
> A programming environment should encourage people to program in a way
> that not only works, but also is clearly legible to people who have
> never seen that program before. This makes it much easier to reuse and
> maintain code, and that leads to much less duplicated effort. That
> means everyone can benefit from the faster progress.
>
> .hc
>
> On Oct 10, 2007, at 10:07 AM, marius schebella wrote:
>
>> I don't understand people complaining about additional features. you
>> don't have to use it, if you don't want. but for other people it makes
>> sense to layout their interface independently from their code.
>> design is so important for a graphical user interface!
>> I heard this so often "I can't share my patch, because only I know,
>> how to use it". patches without a user interface for the run-mode are
>> not sharable.
>> I am not talking about patches with only an on/off button...
>> pd is very limited in that regards and I really would wish pd would
>> make more improvement into that direction.
>> marius.
>>
>> Kevin McCoy wrote:
>>>> The Pd graph-on-parent makes more sense IMHO because it uses
>>>> existing Pd
>>>> mechanisms for encapsulation and encourages patchers to modularize
>>>> their
>>>> programs.
>>>>
>>> 100% agreed, that is why I thought "umm... what's so special about this
>>> presentation mode?" when I saw that page. To me that should be
>>> planned into
>>> the program. If your patches are messy for performance, code
>>> cleaner, use
>>> subpatches, etc, no excuses for that as far as I see. Sends and
>>> receives
>>> for gui objects have been there since I started.. I guess I wasn't
>>> really
>>> excited about any of that stuff :) but then again maybe I
>>> misunderstand..
>>> km
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