[PD] That's a surprising new look

Thomas Grill gr at grrrr.org
Thu Oct 11 00:05:07 CEST 2007

Since i don't like a program to educate me, but i rather like to use a 
program to do things that i want, the new Max features will help with that.
The pd-based vibrez gui has also always separated the patcher logic from 
the gui, and i'm already curious to compare the two systems.
To my mind it will be increasingly hard for pd to keep up with Max, now 
given also partial dsp multi-kernel support and the possible linux port.


Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:
> The one part of presentation that I was intrigued by is the idea of  
> separating the interface from the implementation. I think it's  
> interesting to explore the idea, I just think that having the only  
> connection be that little fade effect when switching is not really a  
> strong enough connection.  It would only be at all effective with a  
> handful of elements, more than that, I think it would become hard to  
> track.
> .hc
> On Oct 10, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Andy Farnell wrote:
>> I'm a bit torn on this. I actually like the concept, but you're right,
>> like all good things that make life easy they tend to erode discipline
>> and structure. The patch messy and sweep it all under the rug
>> philosophy is probably very appealing to many.
>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:27:47 -0400
>> "Kevin McCoy" <km.takewithyou at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> The Pd graph-on-parent makes more sense IMHO because it uses  
>>>> existing Pd
>>>> mechanisms for encapsulation and encourages patchers to  
>>>> modularize their
>>>> programs.
>>> 100% agreed, that is why I thought "umm... what's so special about  
>>> this
>>> presentation mode?" when I saw that page.  To me that should be  
>>> planned into
>>> the program.  If your patches are messy for performance, code  
>>> cleaner, use
>>> subpatches, etc, no excuses for that as far as I see.  Sends and  
>>> receives
>>> for gui objects have been there since I started..  I guess I  
>>> wasn't really
>>> excited about any of that stuff :) but then again maybe I  
>>> misunderstand..
>>> km
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