[PD] Fwd: [OT] Re: about sexism is BORING

eric labelle eric.a.labelle at gmail.com
Thu Oct 11 00:53:43 CEST 2007

just noticed...a bouchard flaming an american for his peoples Genocide?
Where were your ancestors when the french starved the iroquois into peace in
new france man?

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From: eric labelle <eric.a.labelle at gmail.com>
Date: 10 oct. 2007 18:50
Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] Re: about sexism is BORING
To: "bigswift at cox.net" <bigswift at cox.net>

this whole facking thread is boring...the american bashing is the only thing
keeping me on a list that would tolerate such flagrant abuse of people's
time and bandwidth. Wow to hear them go at it they seem to take themselves
seriously which is great...hack a bit of software and hold the key!! Hackers
unite right?

2007/10/10, bigswift at cox.net <bigswift at cox.net>:
> wow, only a few pages before the inevitable usa bashing.
> last i checked the primary developer of pd was an american, yes?
> ---- marius schebella < marius.schebella at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> >
> > >> Americans today make ironic references to the "Axis of Evil" and the
> > >> "war on terror" and "homeland security" all the time.  It doesn't
> mean
> > >> they buy it, even if the media makes it seem that way.
> > >
> > > Yeah but why do they still vote for one of the two big parties?
> >
> > why? I think because USamericans are fearful people. they are fearful,
> > because they never learned to talk about their problematic history.
> > genocide and slavery. they just inherit the guilty consciousness
> > unprocessed from generation to generation. therefor they only feel safe,
> > when they are protected by a big brother. they live with the idea of the
> > survival of the fittest (make the rich richer). they never gave black
> > people compensation for their exploitation (nor any other group). as a
> > matter of fact this is not only US history, but western history in
> > general, but european countries experienced worldwar II and I think they
> > changed their way on communal thinking about racism and so on. there was
> > some shift in common notion and also the wish to keep this notion alive.
> > USamericans subconsciously still fear revenge. and even worse, some of
> > them even think it is a good idea to have a small, rich, educated
> > leading elite that controls the big majority of people. they propose a
> > free market, which I see rather as a free slave market, because
> > preconditions are not fair at all for all people. they try to oppress
> > every effort of union building and their voting system is a "the winner
> > takes it all". in europe it took green parties more than 20 years to
> > make it into gouvernments. in the US this is not possible, because with
> > anything less than 50% you are nothing.
> > and of course the US has a media that is owned by a handful of people,
> > and an education system including universities that aligns itself more
> > to the needs of companies and corporations than to the values of life.
> > that's why "they" still vote for one of the two big parties.
> > with the fall of the dollar, the raise of china, some bank crashs, more
> > and more unemployed people, no health care, no social security I think
> > people will start to vote differently within the the next 10-20 years.
> > marius.
> >
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