[PD] [OT] Re: about sexism is BORING

eric labelle eric.a.labelle at gmail.com
Thu Oct 11 00:59:27 CEST 2007


shouldn't have singled anyone out like that...my apologies it's just this
whole nonesense is getting to me after the x number of days it has lasted
and gone nowhere.

2007/10/10, eric labelle <eric.a.labelle at gmail.com>:
>
> just noticed...a bouchard flaming an american for his peoples Genocide?
> Where were your ancestors when the french starved the iroquois into peace in
> new france man?
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: eric labelle <eric.a.labelle at gmail.com>
> Date: 10 oct. 2007 18:50
> Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] Re: about sexism is BORING
> To: " bigswift at cox.net" <bigswift at cox.net>
>
> this whole facking thread is boring...the american bashing is the only
> thing keeping me on a list that would tolerate such flagrant abuse of
> people's time and bandwidth. Wow to hear them go at it they seem to take
> themselves seriously which is great...hack a bit of software and hold the
> key!! Hackers unite right?
>
> 2007/10/10, bigswift at cox.net < bigswift at cox.net>:
> >
> > wow, only a few pages before the inevitable usa bashing.
> >
> > BORING.
> >
> > last i checked the primary developer of pd was an american, yes?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- marius schebella < marius.schebella at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Americans today make ironic references to the "Axis of Evil" and
> > the
> > > >> "war on terror" and "homeland security" all the time.  It doesn't
> > mean
> > > >> they buy it, even if the media makes it seem that way.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah but why do they still vote for one of the two big parties?
> > >
> > > why? I think because USamericans are fearful people. they are fearful,
> >
> > > because they never learned to talk about their problematic history.
> > > genocide and slavery. they just inherit the guilty consciousness
> > > unprocessed from generation to generation. therefor they only feel
> > safe,
> > > when they are protected by a big brother. they live with the idea of
> > the
> > > survival of the fittest (make the rich richer). they never gave black
> > > people compensation for their exploitation (nor any other group). as a
> >
> > > matter of fact this is not only US history, but western history in
> > > general, but european countries experienced worldwar II and I think
> > they
> > > changed their way on communal thinking about racism and so on. there
> > was
> > > some shift in common notion and also the wish to keep this notion
> > alive.
> > > USamericans subconsciously still fear revenge. and even worse, some of
> > > them even think it is a good idea to have a small, rich, educated
> > > leading elite that controls the big majority of people. they propose a
> > > free market, which I see rather as a free slave market, because
> > > preconditions are not fair at all for all people. they try to oppress
> > > every effort of union building and their voting system is a "the
> > winner
> > > takes it all". in europe it took green parties more than 20 years to
> > > make it into gouvernments. in the US this is not possible, because
> > with
> > > anything less than 50% you are nothing.
> > > and of course the US has a media that is owned by a handful of people,
> > > and an education system including universities that aligns itself more
> > > to the needs of companies and corporations than to the values of life.
> >
> > > that's why "they" still vote for one of the two big parties.
> > > with the fall of the dollar, the raise of china, some bank crashs,
> > more
> > > and more unemployed people, no health care, no social security I think
> >
> > > people will start to vote differently within the the next 10-20 years.
> > > marius.
> > >
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