[PD] That's a surprising new look

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Thu Oct 11 20:35:36 CEST 2007

On Oct 11, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:

> Hallo,
> Thomas Grill hat gesagt: // Thomas Grill wrote:
>> Since i don't like a program to educate me, but i rather like to  
>> use a
>> program to do things that i want, the new Max features will help  
>> with that.
>> The pd-based vibrez gui has also always separated the patcher  
>> logic from
>> the gui, and i'm already curious to compare the two systems.
>> To my mind it will be increasingly hard for pd to keep up with  
>> Max, now
>> given also partial dsp multi-kernel support and the possible linux  
>> port.
> May be, but then, Max almost always was in advance of Pd as far as
> issues like usability are concerned, and still Pd was popular.
> Probably the new Max will make some people change their minds again,
> but in general I believe, both Pd and Max can coexist quite well and
> even learn from each other. And Max will never beat Pd's price.

Keep in mind the new Max is not at all available yet.  Only in the  
forms of demo videos.  There is a lot of work to do between making it  
work enough to make cool demo videos, and making something that  
actually works.  jMax is a great example of that.

As for "keeping up" with Max, I don't think many Pd people are  
interested in doing that.  Max seems to be going more and more the  
route of becoming an application rather than a programming  
environment, like Reactor or Quartz Composer.  Pd is going the  
opposite direction, IMHO, and this is a lot more interesting to me.


> Ciao
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