[PD] [entry] changes

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Oct 27, 2007, at 7:56 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:

> On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 17:48 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> On Oct 27, 2007, at 11:59 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 12:02 +0200, Enrique Erne wrote:
>>>> On Oct 27, 2007, at 5:56 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> in order to work with pd-ext i had to rename some object in chat
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> netpd-gui i.e. [l2s] to [zexy/list2symbol] or [netclient] to
>>>>>> [maxlib/netclient].
>>>>>> is renaming zexy , maxlib objects with namespace the correct/
>>>>>> only way
>>>>>> in pd-extended?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hm, i didn't test myself, but since you are using pd-0.40
>>>>> (extended or
>>>>> not) zexy and maxlib and stuff should be loaded by [declare]. i
>>>>> think
>>>>> currently they are only loaded as externals, which means, for
>>>>> extended
>>>>> we would need to add them as pathes as well (with '-stdpath'
>>>>> instead of
>>>>> '-stdlib'). could you test, if that works? there is no way in
>>>>> renaming
>>>>> all the objets.
>>>>
>>>> most of them could be replaced with list-abs :)
>>>>
>>>> i tested if [list2symbol] could create and reloaded a test patch  
>>>> with
>>>>
>>>> did not create:
>>>> import zexy
>>>> declare -path zexy
>>>> declare -stdlib zexy
>>>> declare -stdpath zexy
>>>> declare -path
>>>> /Applications/Pd-0.40.3-extended-20071026.app/Contents/Resources/
>>>> extra/
>>>> zexy
>>>> declare -stdpath
>>>> /Applications/Pd-0.40.3-extended-20071026.app/Contents/Resources/
>>>> extra/
>>>> zexy
>>>>
>>>> did create:
>>>> import zexy/list2symbol
>>>> declare -stdlib zexy/list2symbol
>>>>
>>>> on osx 10.3.9 (it's an old cat) with Pd-0.40.3- 
>>>> extended-20071026.app
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> but again. i want to know the official way to load an external in
>>>> pd-extended. who can answer this or where is it documented?
>>>>
>>>> the readme says "By default, most of the included libraries are
>>>> loaded
>>>> at startup."
>>>>
>>>> if import is the way to go what about all helpfiles, do they  
>>>> need to
>>>> get updated in order to work?
>>>
>>> in case of netpd, it's not worth to think about [import] at all.  
>>> netpd
>>> won't use it.
>>
>> Any particular objection to [import]?  It's an external like any
>> other.  If you use list2symbol, etc. because it solves problems, I
>
> the main objection is that it is an external, that has an  
> equivalent now
> in plain pd. why use an external then?

If it made your life easier somehow, otherwise no.

> and i didn't know that it is simply an external, i thought it would  
> only
> work with pd-extended because of some adapted code there. is that  
> wrong?

Yes, it's just an external, but it doesn't work with versions of Pd  
older than 0.40.2.

.hc

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