[PD] externals with same names

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Sat Apr 12 19:30:27 CEST 2008

On Apr 12, 2008, at 12:51 AM, Chris McCormick wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 07:02:15PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
> wrote:
>> On Apr 6, 2008, at 10:20 PM, Chris McCormick wrote:
>>> On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 10:53:14PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
>>>> Hallo,
>>>> IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>>>>> 2: don't use the full Pd-extended but strip it down to your  
>>>>> needs (i
>>>>> personally use a barebone Pd and add 3 or so libraries - i still
>>>>> have an
>>>>> overview about what is loaded...)
>>>> I'm sometimes thinking about making a pd-condensed fork of pd-
>>>> extended
>>>> which includes only externals and abstractions without
>>>> nameclashes. ;)
>>> Same here! It would be good to have a distribution with a maintainer
>>> who is slightly less conservative than Miller about what goes in,
>>> but still keep it really tight. Maybe it would also be cool to see a
>>> "democratized" version of Pd where externals and libraries must be
>>> first
>>> nominated and then voted in by some requisite number of positive
>>> votes.
>>> For this to work I think we'd need to have people for each major
>>> GNU/Linux
>>> distribution who would do the work of the actual packaging and
>>> submission,
>>> separate to the building (My aims are totally selfish - I'd love  
>>> to be
>>> able to apt-get install this).
>>> Even more talking with no action (sorry Roman),
>> Check out my posts about a new ./configure based system for building
>> externals and custom distros, it would allow us to all work together.
>> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-03/060833.html
>> This is all fine as long as it doesn't introduce incompatibilities
>> and organizes the libraries so that it is compatible with pd-extended
>> and pd-vanilla with libdirs. Otherwise, this project would just make
>> the situation worse, there would then be three distros with different
>> library layouts.  We really don't need to return to the bad old days.
> I agree it would be a huge waste and duplication of effort to not use
> all the work you have done in pd-extended. Maybe it would be cool  
> to use
> the work you have done as a sort of meta distribution from which a
> custom Pd could be built.

That's the idea.  As long as there is a common library format, then  
there won't be major compability issues between them.


>> I've been thinking more along these lines with Pd-extended anyway.
>> What needs to happen is to establish a standard library format, then
>> people can distribute the librs themselves, and they'll work with any
>> Pd.  libdir is almost there, there I am going to try to finish it
>> this month, adding support for embedded help files and examples.
> Sounds interesting!
> Unfortunately I won't be contributing anything significant to Pd until
> at least August, when my degree and contracts are finished. Thanks  
> again
> for all your hard work!
> Best,
> Chris.
> -------------------
> http://mccormick.cx


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