[PD] pd extended development

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Thu Apr 17 01:41:34 CEST 2008

On Apr 16, 2008, at 6:15 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 15:48 -0400, marius schebella wrote:
>> how many nameclashes do we have? 20, 30? how many libraries are  
>> affected
>> 5? yea, that's what has to be done.
>> the situation right now is worse than any solution with a default  
>> class.
>> because an object like urn is already problematic. a mentored
>> "quasi-official" pd-objectclass list would at least guarantee future
>> compatibility for the one class that would be considered the default.
>> and the other urns would have to be explicitely called with  
>> notdefault/urn.
>> but that is exactly what needs to be done to prevent nameclashes.  
>> if you
>> don't do it, then you never will have compatibility...
> how important is the portability between pd-extended and
> pd-vanilla/externals considered? any solution, that involves the
> [mylib/myclass] scheme creates patches, that are broken on a pd
> installation with multiclass externals.
> not only this, but also for a patch dev it can be quite a pain to  
> make a
> patch work on both using [declare], because in one case you need
> -stdpath and in the other -stdlib. in the end you are forced to use
> always both for no good reason.
> i think it is not up to me to ask such questions, but wouldn't it be
> generally better, if the multiple-class-per-external format would be
> simply dropped? this would also have the nice side effect, that noone
> would ever use aliasses anymore, which currently (and in the future?)
> aren't fully supported.

This sounds great to me, but this is probably no surprise! :)


> from what i can tell, making a patch work exactly the same on extended
> and vanilla adds quite some overhead. or is it only me, who would like
> to create portable (between vanilla and extended) patches?
> roman
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