[PD] Cyclone in vanilla?

marius schebella marius.schebella at gmail.com
Thu Apr 24 19:59:08 CEST 2008

Miller Puckette wrote:
> This is a serious problem -- putting a backwards "pow~" into Pd might
> be worse than having none at all.  But writing a book that uses "pow"
> backwards would be even worse than having one in Pd!
> Maybe the "right" thing would be to use another name such as "power~".

then the max way is the "wrong" way? maybe there was a reason to put it 
the other side around?
pow~ will be in an elitist club together with atan and gate, and maybe 
counter, which are the real troublemakes regarding backwards 
compatibility and shareability.

maybe the new pow~ can spit out a compatibility warning during the first 
few months? but if we agree that
pow~ 2 should be left inlet ^ 2 and not 2 ^ left inlet, then it should 
be changed. because there is also good chance to use pow~ "as expected" 
and then having to debug a patch (which happened to me before I found 
out that it works the cyclone way)...


> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 05:16:08PM +0100, Andy Farnell wrote:
>> Yep. What is to be done about that? Should we keep
>> to the conventions of vanilla and Pd generally by
>> changing that? 
>> I am torn on this. I would have a lot of rewriting to do
>> but would like to see conventions observed.
>> OTOH, maybe compatibility with patches out there using Cyclone
>> [pow~] should be respected as a priority.
>> BTW it's very important for to know. If it changes after I
>> publish the book I will hire a bounty hunter to bring me
>> the fingers of whoever made the changes :)
>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:39:07 -0400
>> marius schebella <marius.schebella at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> btw, are all pow~ objects reversed? right inlet^left inlet?
>>> marius.
>>> Andy Farnell wrote:
>>>> Did I read that Cyclone is to be incorporated into vanilla Pd?
>>>> Having discovered too late that [pow~] is not part of vanilla
>>>> I am about to remove the constraint of using vanilla Pd for 
>>>> the synthetic sound design book since it is incomplete without
>>>> basic mathematical  operators.
>>>> andy
>> -- 
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