[PD] Newbie request

Hugh Sung hughsung at gmail.com
Wed May 7 04:54:54 CEST 2008 

We're having a neat discussion about this in the Pure Data forum now:
http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-1686-fiddle-piano

jon2211 came up with a neat patch that demonstrates how well fiddle~
recognizes notes played on a piano within a given range, triggering a key
text output.  Another poster showed an example of modifying that to trigger
with envelope/volume changes.  Of course, we're still stuck with how to port
the key stroke messages to an external application.

Would someone be willing to write up a python script that can intercept Pure
Data text echoes and forward them to other concurrently running
applications, like PowerPoint or Word?  This is the missing link in the
puzzle - heck, i'd even be willing to pay someone if they could come up with
a useful workaround!

Keeping my fingers crossed...
Many thanks as always!

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:11 AM, Olivier Heinry <olivier at heinry.fr> wrote:

> Le Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:50:33 -0400,
> "Hugh Sung" <hughsung at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> Python might bring you the right solution:
>
> http://www.rutherfurd.net/python/sendkeys/
>
> You can either send your letters/keystrokes from inside pd using the pyext
> external that loads your python script
>
> or send messages via OSC to a python script that implements the ixi
> software simpleOSC lib
>
> http://www.ixi-software.net/content/backyard.html
>
> ++
> O.
>
>
> > Here's one scenario i'd like to see:
> >
> > 1.  Pedal assigned [PgDn] keystroke within Liquid Media, which triggers
> > scene change
> > 2.  PD outputs letters A-Z, depending on either volume or pitch
> frequency
> > ranges input from audio source (microphone into acoustic piano)
> > 3.  A given scene within Liquid Media would then interpret the
> PD-generated
> > keystrokes and trigger image events based on letter key "depressed" by
> PD.
> >
> > You'd have the ease of image generation (a la Powerpoint) with the speed
> and
> > power of PD to map the sound of acoustic music.  Just my newbie
> imagination
> > going here.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Hugh Sung <hughsung at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The pedals basically operate as programmable usb keyboard extensions,
> > > where you can custom assign any keystroke to any pedal (up to 12).
>  I'm
> > > hoping that by assigning a certain set of keys to the pedals and
> reserving
> > > the rest for PD to control that everything can simply work together,
> if PD
> > > can output keyboard letters/numbers.  Everything would run from the
> same
> > > computer.  Again, please forgive me if i sound completely ignorant
> regarding
> > > what's possible with PD...
> > > Many thanks again!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Andrew Turley <aturley at acm.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The [fiddle~] and [bonk~] objects should let you capture all of the
> > > > information that you are looking for. As far as getting that
> > > > information from Pd to Liquid Media, that may be the tricky part.
> Your
> > > > current pedals are sending keystrokes straight to Liquid Media. Do
> you
> > > > know if there is a way to control Liquid Media via MIDI messages, or
> > > > some sort of message sent via a socket connection (maybe OSC)? If
> so,
> > > > then you might be able to use Pd to capture your pedal input and
> then
> > > > combine that with the information from [fiddle~] and/or [bonk~] to
> > > > send the appropriate information to Liquid Media. If the only way to
> > > > control Liquid Media is through keystrokes, then you might need to
> > > > write some software that intercepts the keystrokes from the pedals
> and
> > > > changes them depending on what is going on in Pd.
> > > >
> > > > andy
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Hugh Sung <hughsung at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > I'm using a presentation program called "Liquid Media", sort of
> like
> > > > > Powerpoint on steroids.  Up to this point i had been using
> multiple
> > > > foot
> > > > > pedals assigned to different keystrokes to trigger visual cues,
> like
> > > > video
> > > > > clips, animated GIFs and the like, during live classical music
> piano
> > > > > recitals.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd like to incorporate the dynamic capabilities of realtime
> visual
> > > > sync,
> > > > > with the ability to easily "change the scene", as it were.  i'm
> hoping
> > > > that
> > > > > someone can help me come up with a combined solution where PD acts
> as
> > > > an
> > > > > audio trigger controller, triggering keystroke events based on
> pitch
> > > > ranges,
> > > > > dynamic peaks and rhythmic events, and Liquid Media accepts those
> > > > > PD-generated keystrokes to trigger correlating visual cues.  Each
> > > > scene
> > > > > would comprise of specific trigger-able events, and the foot
> switch
> > > > would
> > > > > allow for a manual "change of scene".  i'm hoping to accomplish
> two
> > > > things
> > > > > with this combined approach:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1.  make it a little easier to incorporate visuals synced to audio
> > > > events
> > > > > 2.  allow for easy scene transitions, to better compliment the
> > > > "narrative"
> > > > > structure of classical compositions
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this makes sense...thanks all for your input so far! (and
> > > > patience!)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for forwarding keypresses and mouse events to an application
> ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have done this in Windows to control FLStudio (aka
> FruityLoops) by
> > > > > sending menu events and keypresses through python windows
> scripting,
> > > > > pywinauto, and osc in python.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have info and code on my website.  It should still work but
> it's a
> > > > bit
> > > > > old (2006) and I don't use Windows anymore.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 13:05 -0400, marius schebella wrote:
> > > > > > fiddle~ comes with pd (look in the "extra" folder), there is a
> help
> > > > > > patch that will explain how it works.
> > > > > > hope this helps.
> > > > > > marius.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugh Sung wrote:
> > > > > > > i'm not familiar with that program - can you provide a link to
> > > > fiddle~,
> > > > > > > or any other program that can easily do what i'm looking for
> with
> > > > all
> > > > > > > the various parameters?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Many thanks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:50 PM, marius schebella
> > > > > > > <marius.schebella at gmail.com <mailto:marius.schebella at gmail.com
> >>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hugh Sung wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Actually, this isn't for speech recognition - i'm trying to
> come
> > > > > > > up with a simple way to use key triggers to activate visuals.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For example: if the piano plays A440, i'm presuming PD can be
> > > > > > > configured to recognize that pitch with a microphone input and
> > > > > > > then echo out a text string - the letter "A", perhaps.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > in that case, you best use fiddle~. what's the other program?
> does
> > > > > > > it accept network communication? then you can send the letters
> > > > over
> > > > > > > tcp or udp connection (netsend).
> > > > > > > marius.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Hugh Sung
> > > > > > > www.hughsung.com <http://www.hughsung.com>
> > > > > > > www.TabletPCMusician.com <http://www.TabletPCMusician.com>
> > > > > > > www.musicmeetstech.com <http://www.musicmeetstech.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > Dan Wilcox
> > > > > > robotcowboy.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Hugh Sung
> > > > > www.hughsung.com
> > > > >
> > > > > www.TabletPCMusician.com
> > > > > www.musicmeetstech.com
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-- 
Hugh Sung
www.hughsung.com
www.TabletPCMusician.com
www.musicmeetstech.com
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