[PD] left mouse click abuse

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> except what if you move the mouse and then decide you want to make a
> connection to a new object?   We'd need a way to return to the earlier
> state.
>
> shift-numerals might be a problem because in many places the numerals
> already require the shift key.
>

Hello,

Yes, shift-numerals would be a problem on, say, Belgian or French
keyboards, because to get the effect of ctrl+3, you actually have to do
ctrl+shift+3 in reality.

As for ctrl+shift+A to deselect all: what about having just ctrl+A toggle
between 'select all' and 'select none'. It is done like this in for
example Blender, only without ctrl, where I found it pretty handy once I
got used to it. You could just think of it as doing 'ctrl+AA' to 'deselect
all'.

on a side note: I came across a DAW software called Traverso, which I
think makes quite interesting use of keyboard+mouse shortcuts. (see page
15 in its manual at: http://traverso-daw.org/UserManual.html )

Tim

> cheers
> Miller
>
> On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 11:26:12PM +0100, marius schebella wrote:
>> Frank Barknecht wrote:
>> > Hallo,
>> > Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ha, that's cute, though it needs some getting used to, but I guess
>> that
>> >> will come quickly.
>> >>
>> >> I just tried it with creating a [f ], then press Ctl-1 and type "mod
>> 16",
>> >> press  C-1 again and type "+ 1", neat.
>> >
>> > After my initial enthusiasm has faded I must also say, that certain
>> > patching habits now fail miserably.
>> >
>> > I'm used to moving the mouse in advance to where I want to put the
>> next
>> > object for objects that should not be connected to the previously
>> > created object.
>> >
>> > Example: Lets say I want to create a row of number atoms like this:
>> >
>> >  [0\  [0\  [0\  [0\  [0\  [0\  [0\
>>
>> this should be easy: if the mouse moved between the last ctl-3 and the
>> following, then place the object at the mouse position without
>> connection, if the mouse did not move, then assume the user is in
>> keyboard patching mode and place the new object below the old one and
>> connect it. I also thought about using ctl+shift+number to create a
>> connected object. don't know if that combination is used by an OS?
>> or use ctl-k to toggle between keyboard only mode and mouse+keyboard
>> mode.
>> on my mac I would like to use ctl-home and ctl-end to cycle through the
>> possibilites of connecting two objects. don't know about other OS.
>>
>> plus the other features below (select multiple objects and align them or
>> connect them) would be nice, too.
>>
>> cheers,
>> marius.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Traditionally I'd do a sweeping movement with the mouse going left to
>> right
>> > and sometimes press "Ctl-3" and click.
>> >
>> > The new auto-connections make this very hard now.
>> >
>> > I guess I would prefer auto-connections and auto-alignments happen
>> > afterwards, e.g. I create these
>> >
>> >  [0\
>> >
>> >    [mtof]
>> >
>> >      [phasor~]
>> >
>> >   [cos~]
>> >
>> >
>> > then select the four objects, say the magic words and then it would
>> > transform into this:
>> >
>> >  [0\
>> >  |
>> >  [mtof]
>> >  |
>> >  [phasor~]
>> >  |
>> >  [cos~]
>> >
>> > Ciao
>>
>>
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