[PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Mon Feb 16 05:31:28 CET 2009 

If you run into that bug, then yeah, you need to use 0.42.  There are  
vanilla+libs builds of 0.42 for GNU/Linux.  You might be able to make  
one for Mac OS X, I haven't tried.  Or you can just copy extra and  
docs from Pd-extended.

.hc

On Feb 10, 2009, at 2:57 AM, Luigi wrote:

> That means:
>
> the only workaround is to use pd-vanilla for now ??
>
> This leads to anoher question: What is the best way then to use pd-
> vanilla but with the externals and documentation from pd-extended ???
>
> was that discussed before ??
>
> Grüße
>
> Luigi
>
>
> Am 10.02.2009 um 03:34 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>
>>
>> With Pd-0.42-4 vanilla on Mac OS X 10.5.6/Intel, I can't reproduce
>> this.  With Pd-0.41-4 vanilla, I can.  I get one:
>>
>> error: .x34e4d0: no such object
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2009, at 12:19 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure if this is related since I'm running winxp, but I was
>>> getting about seventeen of the following errors when closing test.pd
>>> on pd-vanilla 0.42-4:
>>> error: .xa22a90: no such object
>>>
>>> if I would:
>>> 1) open test.pd
>>> 2) right-click and open one of the instances of the ds-tgl
>>> 3) click the ds in editmode and delete it
>>> 4) save and quickly close the abstraction window (takes about 10
>>> seconds)
>>> 5) close test.pd without saving (which takes about 5 seconds)
>>>
>>> But as you might imagine, putting the ds in its own gop window
>>> solved all these problems.
>>>
>>> -Jonathan
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when
>>>> modifying Abstractions
>>>> To: "Luigi" <luigi.rensinghoff at freenet.de>
>>>> Cc: "puredata mailing list" <pd-list at iem.at>
>>>> Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 4:46 AM
>>>> So the "consistency check failed:
>>>> canvas_create_editor" also happens
>>>> on Pd-vanilla 0.41-4 but seems to be fixed in 0.42-4.  I
>>>> checked this
>>>> by copying the contents of "extra" into a
>>>> Pd-0.42-4.app and running
>>>> your app.  If we can track down the fix, I'll backport
>>>> it if it is not
>>>> too complicated.
>>>>
>>>> "error: .x6cfc80: no such object" seems to be
>>>> specific to Pd-extended,
>>>> I think this is related to a bug I've been trying to
>>>> track down.
>>>> Basically the canvas seems to disappear on the 'pd'
>>>> side, while the pd-
>>>> gui side it is still there...
>>>>
>>>> .hc
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Luigi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Hans Christian...
>>>>>
>>>>> All on OSX(INTEL) 10.5.6
>>>>>
>>>>> So lets see if you can reproduce this bug: i have Pd
>>>> version 0.40.3-
>>>>> extended
>>>>> dont know which exact version from the
>>>> "builds" actually
>>>>>
>>>>> so here we go:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Unzip the Archive
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) open "drummer_main"
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) with "right-click" go inside of
>>>> "drum_module"
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) with "right-click" go inside
>>>> "gg_midi_note"
>>>>>
>>>>> 5) do any modification
>>>>>
>>>>> 6) Type "CTRL-S" for save or choose
>>>> "Save" from the menu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps....
>>>>>
>>>>> would be great to find that bugger
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Luigi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <example_consistency.zip>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 07.02.2009 um 02:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you ever find an answer to this?  Or is there
>>>> an example
>>>>>> patch?  I have seen some strange behavior that I
>>>> am trying to track
>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:06 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I notice a bug, thats coming back on OS X
>>>> PD-extended. The occurs
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> i change an Abstraction, but not the original,
>>>> but an active
>>>>>>> "instance" of a patch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fpr example i have many instances of the same
>>>> abstraction
>>>>>>> encapsulated
>>>>>>> in other abstractions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While patching i decide to change something -
>>>> for example add an
>>>>>>> outlet - i open the instance change it and try
>>>> to save it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PD seems to update all occurring abstractions
>>>> and meanwhile the
>>>>>>> "parent-window" seems to disappear
>>>> and it is not possible to save
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> patch anymore...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have to force quit PD after that. Strangely
>>>> enough the change is
>>>>>>> saved in the abstraction..... but of course it
>>>> is totally annoying
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the workflow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think i had this issue before and it
>>>> disappeared in a more recent
>>>>>>> release of PD-Extended for OS-X Intel....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am sorry i cannot post an example patch
>>>> right now, maybe
>>>>>>> tonight...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For now i would like to ask if anybody is
>>>> having the same
>>>>>>> problem....and how to fix it, or maybe knows
>>>> under which "subject"
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> might have been saved in the archive..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All the Best and a Happy New Year
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Luigi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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