[PD] Pd book sprint in NYC/Berlin
Hans-Christoph Steiner
hans at eds.org
Mon Mar 16 18:30:32 CET 2009
Marshall McLuhan would strongly disagree with you, as do I. The
medium with which you communicate has a very strong impact on the
conversation. That does not mean that it is the only influence.
There are many things that lead to a bad meeting, and from my
experience of having many meetings in person, on IRC, on IM, on
phones, on voice chat, on video chat, and many different mixes above,
I am a strong believer in high-bandwidth communication like voice.
.hc
On Mar 16, 2009, at 1:29 PM, dmotd wrote:
> i am really unsure what you are talking about.. a meeting is what it
> is, and
> the medium will never dictate what you are talking about and the
> intensity
> with which it is conducted.. perhaps face to face contact is good for
> watching the iris quiver and building a psychological profile based
> on that
> particular interaction, but really the amount of focus and
> dedication that
> anyone gives to a subject is dependent on variables that are quite
> out of
> control to other participants.
>
> in terms of multi-tasking... i am usually engaged on a number of
> things in any
> given time period.. what at least is consistent about IRC is that i
> can chose
> to focus on any given problem without having to make myself publically
> withdrawn from the discussion, and in such a circumstance i have a
> log to
> refer to what i have missed..
>
> which leads me to my final point.. i have a log.. which everyone
> does, without
> transcription, without poor pronunciation and bad language getting
> in the
> way.. easy to archive and so on..
>
> i have no real interest in the topic, but i have been a particpant in
> enough 'online meetings' to know that video conferencing is a
> complete waste
> of time, beyond the initial distraction of connectivity issues..
>
> if people have something valid to say and real-time is the only
> productive
> forum then IRC works and works well, otherwise voice probably makes
> up for
> where text lacks, but only in small groups.. video is just an
> unnecessary and
> unproductive formality..
>
> meetings are never as productive as the facilitato
>
> On Monday 16 March 2009 22:53:56 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> I find IRC meetings to be very unproductive. Everyone is usually too
>> busy multitasking to get anything done in the meeting. I think that
>> the high bandwidth of voice and seeing the person holds your
>> attention
>> longer, so there is less multitasking and more focused discussion.
>> That said, if the audio connection is bad, then it gets worse than
>> IRC. IRC is good for asking pointed questions back and forth, better
>> than audio/video chat.
>>
>> I think we should have IRC running, but also it would be great to
>> have
>> video chat with projectors, speakers, and a decent mic setup. Marius
>> and I ran the streaming for a class at Brooklyn Poly. One student
>> was
>> joining in from Canada. When it was set up and running well, it
>> actually worked quite well. This means spending a little time
>> setting
>> up the speakers and mics, and a projector is good too instead of a
>> screen. Since this will be happening over three days, it makes sense
>> to spend some time on setup. ITP can provide all of the equipment on
>> the NYC end.
>>
>> .hc
>>
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