[PD] Fwd: PD t-shirts

harris_pilton at gmx.de harris_pilton at gmx.de
Tue Jul 21 11:03:59 CEST 2009


just sent it to hc. sorry.

Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:
>
> hi there,
>
> is anybody still into the tshirt thing? i think i could help with  
> the printing. i'm not good at thinking of designs though. bang-until  
> was quite common-sense - afaik there hasnt been lot response on that!?
> i wanted to bring up the topic again  - basically because i want a  
> pd-tshirt too :)
> cheers
> Am 06.04.2009 um 06:23 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>
>>
>> I like the DIY way.  It would be great if people organized their  
>> own fundraisers and bounties.  I think that fits in well with the  
>> anarchic nature of Pd.
>>
>> There are things like cafepress.com for t-shirts and the like.  It  
>> is more expensive than doing it yourself, probably, but its  
>> easier.  It would be nice to see more than one Pd t-shirt  
>> available.  I'd like bang-until and that cake, for example.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>>
>> On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Ben Baker-Smith wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Kyle,
>>>
>>> That's much more in line with what I'm looking to do.  I also cannot
>>> afford to go to PdCon given that it's all the way in Brazil, and I'm
>>> sure the majority of Pd users are in the same boat.  A documentation
>>> bounty seems like a good way to encourage people to document, and  
>>> give
>>> them a way of justifying their time.  And, I agree, probably more
>>> worthwhile than paying half of one person's ticket to Sao Paulo.
>>>
>>> In regards to designs, and printing:
>>>
>>> I'm thinking it might be cheapest (allowing more money to be raised)
>>> for me to print the shirts myself.. I just need to come up with a
>>> solid price estimate in the next couple days.  Also, this seems more
>>> in line with the do-it-yourself attitude of Pd than, say, e- 
>>> mailing a
>>> .Gif file to an internet service and letting it all go through them.
>>>
>>> I have  couple designs I've drawn up myself, and a few have been
>>> submitted to me via this list.  So, hopefully by the end of the
>>> weekend, I will upload them to my site and post a link on the list  
>>> for
>>> feedback.
>>>
>>> -Ben
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Kyle Klipowicz  
>>> <kyleklip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Yes, I agree that the fund should be for a documentation bounty.
>>>> I think that Ben (or whoever makes the shirts) should hold the  
>>>> money in
>>>> trust. Perhaps set up an interest-bearing account to save the  
>>>> cash in. Then
>>>> create a well-documented (pun?) bounty description of what key  
>>>> features are
>>>> to be implemented and the financial payment for each.
>>>> You could do micropayments for key help patches or examples, say  
>>>> $20 US
>>>> each, or a big bounty for larger sections such as re-organizing  
>>>> existing
>>>> patches into a tidy intro library for new uses, with ready-mades  
>>>> to go.
>>>> I think this would be a longer lasting value than paying for Pd- 
>>>> con. I'd
>>>> love to go myself, but probably cannot afford it...but I'd rather  
>>>> see some
>>>> solid documentation be built...or have the financial incentive to  
>>>> do it!
>>>> (Not a capitalist, just a hungry belly).
>>>> ~Kyle
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Ben Baker-Smith <bbakersmith at gmail.com 
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm open to the idea of donating proceeds to PdCon.  But, having  
>>>>> never
>>>>> been, I have some clarifying questions/concerns.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would really prefer that any money from sales went toward
>>>>> documentation, which in turn will increase useability and make  
>>>>> PD more
>>>>> accessible to new users.  Does the convention encourage/promote
>>>>> documentation?  Is time spent at the convention trying to  
>>>>> increase the
>>>>> existing body of literature?
>>>>>
>>>>> If so, then I'm all for it.  I just don't want to settle on  
>>>>> PdCon if
>>>>> it's only useful to attendees.  (of course, I understand that in a
>>>>> good open-source community knowledge gained by any members  
>>>>> contributes
>>>>> in some way to the knowledge of the group... but I'm talking more
>>>>> formal documention rather than more answers on the mailing list)
>>>>>
>>>>> Glad to hear the interest.  I'm still looking into the best way  
>>>>> to go
>>>>> about printing, selling, and distributing.
>>>>> If someone wants to partner up on this I'd be happy for the help  
>>>>> and
>>>>> added input.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Ben
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Castonguay
>>>>> <acastonguay at artengine.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Ben, all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We did the last batch of t's as a fundraiser for the Convention  
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Montréal.  We managed to pay for another 1/2 plane ticket with  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> proceeds :-).  Maybe the same could be done for São Paulo?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The super folks from Graz sent the file they used for the  
>>>>>> original t's I
>>>>>> should still have it if you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> À bientôt,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello List,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts.  I  
>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>> totally worked out the logistics.  Basically I was inspired by  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> [Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer  
>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>> as far as I can tell.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, if I did so, I would like to donate all of the  
>>>>>>> proceeds toward
>>>>>>> further PD development, specifically documentation of poorly
>>>>>>> documented objects (or example patches, which is basically the  
>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>> thing).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you all think would be the best way of going about this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should I stockpile the money and then offer it to someone as a  
>>>>>>> sort of
>>>>>>> grant?  That's less than ideal in my opinion.  I really don't  
>>>>>>> know how
>>>>>>> to go about this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any/all input is welcome
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Ben
>>>>>>>
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