[PD] PD t-shirts

harris_pilton at gmx.de harris_pilton at gmx.de
Tue Jul 28 11:57:06 CEST 2009


all in all about how many tshirts are we talking? my first guess would  
have been 150 tshirts... but i really cant tell. one should consider  
that there might be extra tshirts for the us. are there any figures  
from previous editions?

up to now i saw the orange tshirt with black printing on it. i like  
that. how about including some alternatives for the new shirts?

greetings, especially to the people in brazil, have a nice time,

max

Am 27.07.2009 um 04:34 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:

>
> Hey there from Brasil!   Yeah, t-shirts would be great, there are  
> many people who want them.  They didn't make enough for the  
> conference, so there are probably people here who would also be  
> interested.
>
> .hc
>
> harris_pilton at gmx.de wrote:
>> hi there,
>>
>> is anybody still into the tshirt thing? i think i could help with  
>> the printing. i'm not good at thinking of designs though. bang- 
>> until was quite common-sense - afaik there hasnt been lot response  
>> on that!?
>> i wanted to bring up the topic again  - basically because i want a  
>> pd-tshirt too :)
>> cheers
>> Am 06.04.2009 um 06:23 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>>
>>>
>>> I like the DIY way.  It would be great if people organized their  
>>> own fundraisers and bounties.  I think that fits in well with the  
>>> anarchic nature of Pd.
>>>
>>> There are things like cafepress.com for t-shirts and the like.  It  
>>> is more expensive than doing it yourself, probably, but its  
>>> easier.  It would be nice to see more than one Pd t-shirt  
>>> available.  I'd like bang-until and that cake, for example.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Ben Baker-Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Kyle,
>>>>
>>>> That's much more in line with what I'm looking to do.  I also  
>>>> cannot
>>>> afford to go to PdCon given that it's all the way in Brazil, and  
>>>> I'm
>>>> sure the majority of Pd users are in the same boat.  A  
>>>> documentation
>>>> bounty seems like a good way to encourage people to document, and  
>>>> give
>>>> them a way of justifying their time.  And, I agree, probably more
>>>> worthwhile than paying half of one person's ticket to Sao Paulo.
>>>>
>>>> In regards to designs, and printing:
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking it might be cheapest (allowing more money to be  
>>>> raised)
>>>> for me to print the shirts myself.. I just need to come up with a
>>>> solid price estimate in the next couple days.  Also, this seems  
>>>> more
>>>> in line with the do-it-yourself attitude of Pd than, say, e- 
>>>> mailing a
>>>> .Gif file to an internet service and letting it all go through  
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> I have  couple designs I've drawn up myself, and a few have been
>>>> submitted to me via this list.  So, hopefully by the end of the
>>>> weekend, I will upload them to my site and post a link on the  
>>>> list for
>>>> feedback.
>>>>
>>>> -Ben
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Kyle Klipowicz  
>>>> <kyleklip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Yes, I agree that the fund should be for a documentation bounty.
>>>>> I think that Ben (or whoever makes the shirts) should hold the  
>>>>> money in
>>>>> trust. Perhaps set up an interest-bearing account to save the  
>>>>> cash in. Then
>>>>> create a well-documented (pun?) bounty description of what key  
>>>>> features are
>>>>> to be implemented and the financial payment for each.
>>>>> You could do micropayments for key help patches or examples, say  
>>>>> $20 US
>>>>> each, or a big bounty for larger sections such as re-organizing  
>>>>> existing
>>>>> patches into a tidy intro library for new uses, with ready-mades  
>>>>> to go.
>>>>> I think this would be a longer lasting value than paying for Pd- 
>>>>> con. I'd
>>>>> love to go myself, but probably cannot afford it...but I'd  
>>>>> rather see some
>>>>> solid documentation be built...or have the financial incentive  
>>>>> to do it!
>>>>> (Not a capitalist, just a hungry belly).
>>>>> ~Kyle
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Ben Baker-Smith <bbakersmith at gmail.com 
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm open to the idea of donating proceeds to PdCon.  But,  
>>>>>> having never
>>>>>> been, I have some clarifying questions/concerns.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would really prefer that any money from sales went toward
>>>>>> documentation, which in turn will increase useability and make  
>>>>>> PD more
>>>>>> accessible to new users.  Does the convention encourage/promote
>>>>>> documentation?  Is time spent at the convention trying to  
>>>>>> increase the
>>>>>> existing body of literature?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If so, then I'm all for it.  I just don't want to settle on  
>>>>>> PdCon if
>>>>>> it's only useful to attendees.  (of course, I understand that  
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> good open-source community knowledge gained by any members  
>>>>>> contributes
>>>>>> in some way to the knowledge of the group... but I'm talking more
>>>>>> formal documention rather than more answers on the mailing list)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad to hear the interest.  I'm still looking into the best way  
>>>>>> to go
>>>>>> about printing, selling, and distributing.
>>>>>> If someone wants to partner up on this I'd be happy for the  
>>>>>> help and
>>>>>> added input.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Ben
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Castonguay
>>>>>> <acastonguay at artengine.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Ben, all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We did the last batch of t's as a fundraiser for the  
>>>>>>> Convention in
>>>>>>> Montréal.  We managed to pay for another 1/2 plane ticket with  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> proceeds :-).  Maybe the same could be done for São Paulo?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The super folks from Graz sent the file they used for the  
>>>>>>> original t's I
>>>>>>> should still have it if you want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> À bientôt,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello List,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts.  I  
>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>> totally worked out the logistics.  Basically I was inspired  
>>>>>>>> by the
>>>>>>>> [Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer  
>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>> as far as I can tell.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, if I did so, I would like to donate all of the  
>>>>>>>> proceeds toward
>>>>>>>> further PD development, specifically documentation of poorly
>>>>>>>> documented objects (or example patches, which is basically  
>>>>>>>> the same
>>>>>>>> thing).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do you all think would be the best way of going about this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Should I stockpile the money and then offer it to someone as  
>>>>>>>> a sort of
>>>>>>>> grant?  That's less than ideal in my opinion.  I really don't  
>>>>>>>> know how
>>>>>>>> to go about this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any/all input is welcome
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Ben
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