[PD] netsend~

fred-ordi ordi at fredvoisin.com
Wed Sep 9 14:00:46 CEST 2009


did someone succeeded in making x86 pd_darwin or ppc pd_linux for 
netsend~/netreceive~ ?
or is there something newer than http://www.nullmedium.de/dev/netsend~/  ?

thank's for your help,
fred

fred-ordi wrote:
> Sorry if this question is obvious, may be an alternate for live audio 
> processing with clusters:
> does it exist some netsend/netreceive for audio in Puredata ?
> I remember having using one (experimental) few years ago but was within 
> MaxMSP...
> 
> fred
> 
> 
> IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>> Phil Stone wrote:
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> Thanks for replying.  I don't quite understand what you mean by 
>>> "manually manage".  As far as I know, without something like [pd~], 
>>> there's no way to divide up and assign the Pd audio process to more 
>>> than one core.  Half of the cores on a quad-core are therefore 
>>> useless to Pd (accounting for the fact that the graphical process 
>>> gets its own core).
>>>
>>
>> the problem is, that poly-class objects are usually meant for _many_ 
>> objects (10+; i'm only repeating here what hans has already said).
>> [pd~] will fork a new thread for each of it's instances.
>> when doing multi-core processing (and this is really the only thing 
>> pd~ is good for; e.g .it's not good if you want to have different 
>> priorities / asynchronous processing), you usually don't want to 
>> create more threads than you have cores.
>> why? performance reasons! if you create e.g. 1000 threads for 1000 
>> instances of [doodle~] on a quad-core machine, your computer will 
>> spend more time handling context-switches and the like (that is: the 
>> overhead for managing the threads) than doing the actual job.
>> as a rule of thumb, the optimum number of threads is about the number 
>> of cores you want to use.
>>
>> since what is sold to customers as "multi-core" processors usually 
>> does not involve more than 4 cores, the "best" (though probably not 
>> the most comfortable) way to assign work to the cores from within Pd 
>> is doing it "manually"
>>
>>
>> fmgasdr.#
>> IOhannes
>>
>>
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