[PD] Question about object categorizing
Jonathan Wilkes
jancsika at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 7 20:21:59 CET 2010
From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju <at> artengine.ca>
Subject: Re: Question about object categorizing
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.multimedia.puredata.general
Date: 2009-09-26 03:57:19 GMT (14 weeks, 5 days, 14 hours and 24 minutes ago)
[...]
"So basically the category system has more to do with social factors than
with anything else... and those social factors don't help seeing things as
they are. For example, something that unites most of AUDIO MATH object
classes, is that the effect only involves one instant at a time, no
memory, no feedback. This obviously excludes all four [fft~] and [framp~]
from that category system, as those are block-oriented object classes
(which could be the name of another category). But then, there are a few
expatriates that you have to pick from all over to put them in the
instant-oriented category. For example, [cos~] from the OSCILLATORS AND
TABLES category; but also, the [tabread...] classes are instant-oriented,
but they differ from all others so far, because they use data that doesn't
come from the signal. Then we could argue about whether [noise~] belongs
in or not (because it depends on how you look at it)."
Hi Matju,
Do you have a suggestion for a more specific term or phrase than
"block-oriented" in the sense you use above? If it's taken out of the
context of your explanation and used as a category, it implies that other
objects are not "block-oriented," which is ambiguous. Basically, I see
four related divisions here:
1) "one-instant-at-a-time" objects as you describe above
2) block-oriented tilde objects in the sense you describe above
3) block-aligned tilde objects like [line~]
4) sub-sample accurate objects like [vline~] and [vsnapshot~]
Since the vast majority of tilde objects are block aligned, maybe it's not
necessary to have the "block-aligned" category and just use
"sub-sample_accurate" for those few special objects like [vline~]. But
then what's the clearest way to refer to nos. 1 and 2 above?
Thanks,
Jonathan
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