i guess the limitation is for "safety" reasons. but you can always use a self-feeding delay: [toggle ] | [sel 0 1] | \ [bang ( [stop ( \ / [t b]X[del 0.0226757] | .. -- ypatios -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20100209/bfe6775f/attachment.htm>