[PD] External to get boxes' informations

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2010-04-20 18:24, Vilson Vieira wrote:
> 2010/4/20 IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig at iem.at>
> 
>> On 2010-04-19 19:09, Vilson Vieira wrote:
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> is there any object (or any way to create an external object) to get
>>> informations about other objects on the patch at the moment (for example,
>>> the number of inlets/outlets of one object, it's state (number, symbol,
>> ...)
>>> and other things)?
>>>
>>
>> yes.
>> it's in iemguts.
>>
> 
> Thanks IOhannes, I've used iemguts, it's so interesting! But being an
> external, can I get information about things like: how many objects are on
> my current patch? how inlets/outlets they have? I think you've implemented

all this can be done with iemguts ([canvasindex] and [canvasconnections])

> iemguts to that porpouse: there isn't a way to do that using just the m_pd.h
> interfaces. Am I right?

most likely not.
that's why iemguts have this innardish name, as they are (often) messing
around with internals of Pd (that is: everything not exposed by m_pd.h)

> 
> I'm trying to get information about the objects on a patch to make it easy
> to reflect the state of PD to other languages like Python [1]. Yes, I've
> seen your presentation about reflection on PD and it's awesome!
> 

well, what iemguts can do, you can do in any other language (if you are
willing to use the private interfaces in s_stuff.h, m_imp.h, g_canvas.h,...)

> Is there a roadmap to make the facilities of iemguts a default feature at PD
> soon? I would like to contribute on it.

i haven't planned that.
for me, iemguts is something highly experimental (e.g. not something
most people would use in their everyday life; but of course it's up to
the people to chose what they use in their everyday life).
more important, what i want to do can be mainly done as an external
(even though using private interfaces), and so there is no real need to
internalize these objects (it's not something like a loader-mechanism,
which is virtually impossible to implement without touching Pd-core)

anyhow, i'm happy to include contributions in iemguts (if they meet my
random criteria :-))


fgmasdr
IOhannes



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