[PD] Musical notation object on Pd

[Ed Kelly]

Another one! I'm working on a full system of music notation display for GEM if 
that's any help. Progress is really slow, I'm using dynamic patching to create 
the objects, and it's in no way compatible with Lilypond notation.

In fact, it's a painful process. The kind of object you are talking about would 
be much nicer - but only if it could also cope with complete rhythmic elements 
(ties, beaming, time sigs etc) for me.

Good luck,
Ed

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From: Caio Barros <caio.barros at gmail.com>
To: PD list <pd-list at iem.at>
Sent: Thu, 4 November, 2010 16:03:50
Subject: [PD] Musical notation object on Pd

Hello guys.
I've been dreaming about an object that would display musical notation and 
output data (like midi numbers for instance).
I found a discutions about something like that here in our list 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg19969.html) but this was a 
discussion about creating live musical notation for performance, and what I have 
in mind is something more like a Computer Assisted Composition/Research tool. If 
i'm not mistaken Open Music and PWGL (http://www2.siba.fi/PWGL/) already have 
something like this.
Look at the images I made of how this object would look like:
- The input would be a message with the midi number of the pitch, and the object 
would display a Treble or Bass cleff with the note and output the number of the 
pitch through the outlet (cleff_pd_01.png).
- It would be possible to alterate the pitch by holding and dragging the mouse 
(cleff_pd_02.png)
- Chords could be made... (cleff_pd_03.png)
- or melodies... (cleff_pd_04.png)
- or even sequences of chords. (cleff_pd_05.png)

The output could easily be transformed into notation for lilypond, for instance 
(like Collin Oldham did in that thread I mentioned).

Do you think it's possible to do something like that? At the moment I don't have 
the money to pay a programmer to do that (I would happily do it if I could). 
Maybe I can learn how to do this, but I don't know where to start.
I already see some complications to build this object: 
- it would have to stretch itself so the chords and melodies would fit;
- It would have to decide what cleff to use (or maybe not, the user could send a 
message like [treble<); 

- There should have a way to choose between flat and sharp;
- A nice thing would be to have more than one staff at once, like a piano staff 
for instance, and so on...

For now I'm just wondering if something like this could be done. I've been doing 
some calculations of composition techniques  using Pd and I miss musical 
notation so much.

Bye!
Caio Barros

Bonus: I made an abstraction to transform midi note to pitch name and also 
frequency as a part of a bunch of composition tools I use. (and after I read 
those threads about creating the notation object in GEM I discovered that some 
people already did it, but here it go anyway). see midi_note.pd



      
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