[PD] Plugin for 0.43 to have a gtk-looking open dialog

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at at.or.at
Wed Dec 15 16:09:53 CET 2010


On Dec 14, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Chris McCormick wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:20:32AM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
> wrote:
>> On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 16:08 +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
>>> IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>>>> On 2010-12-14 15:31, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>> I believe the objection you mention is that Pd-extended  
>>>>> automatically
>>>>> creates ~/pd-externals.  ~/pd-externals is the standard user- 
>>>>> install
>>>>> path for Pd-vanilla and Pd-extended.
>>>>>
>>> I would second the suggestion someone made of a .pd-extended (with  
>>> dot)
>>> folder in the user's home as that seems quite standard for many  
>>> linux
>>> apps... Of course I'm not sure how much this would break existing
>>> libraries which rely on the pd-extended folder.
>>
>> That's a common suggestion.  Frank made a good case for it not to  
>> be a .
>> file, you can see the threads at the bottom here:
>>
>> http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files
>
> Did you interperet Frank's comment:
>
>> The home path isn't important anyway as every user probably has her
>> own file layout for home. And I don't think that every home should be
>> standardized, I like it if all my friends' homes look different.
>
> to mean that he doesn't agree with a dot file? I am not sure if  
> that's a
> correct reading. Seems more like a whimsical off-hand comment than a  
> reason to
> break with forty two years of unix tradition.

No, we explicitly discussed the name and leading dot.  Don't remember  
exactly where.

> If you don't like ~/.pd-externals the other thing you could do is  
> follow the
> free desktop standard and put it in one of ~/.config/pd-externals
> ~/Templates/pd-externals ~/Documents/pd-externals or something?  
> There must be a
> precedent for this.
>
> "pd-extras" would seem like a more apt name to me too.
>
> Sorry to be a trouble maker. I should say that I totally love this  
> new feature
> and many thanks for lobbying to get it into Pd/MSP.

We read the Free Desktop standards and didn't find anything relevant.   
External libraries are not conf files, so .config isn't appropriate.   
They are not really documents either.  If the Free Desktop standards  
do come up with something that fits, I think it would be a good idea  
to follow that standard.

.hc



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