[PD] [OT]: An inflaming video posted on list [WAS]: Re: Touchscreen "Kiosk audio" experiments

ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2010 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 14 15:03:49 CEST 2011


hmmm....What is the context of the Musilini video?

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Lorenzo Sutton <lsutton at libero.it> wrote:
> As I'm also writing from Italy, I thought I'd just spend a couple of
> words about this although it's pretty much off-topic, also hoping the
> original poster might shed a little light on this.
>
> Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>> I agree that Mussolini should not be a "favorite" but it's simply a way to access files for later recall.
> Mhh, well.. I think "favourite" has a very precise meaning, using
> favourite as bookmark seems strange.
>> On Apr 13, 2011, at 5:23 PM, "Husk 00" <husk00 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Martin Dupras <martindupras at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Husk,
>>> Hi Martin
>>>> First of all, I'm a pd-list subscriber and I'm more offended by your post
>>>> than Simon's, just so that you know.
> I agree that husk's reaction was maybe a bit too strong, but you have to
> consider that most people (including myself) are quite sensitive to
> "Mussoini" here in Italy, especially these days.
>
>> [...]
>>>> I abhor fascism in all its forms. Having said that, I know Simon personally
>>>> and I can vouch for him.
> Good to hear that Maybe would be good to read it directly from him :)
>>>> The Mussolini video is not something that he
>>>> posted. It is on his channel but as a favorite. It could very well be spam
>>>> from someone else, or he might have linked to it because it is a piece of
>>>> media that he discusses in one of his classes. Once again, there is no need
>>>> to jump to conclusions.
> Ok we'll grant him benefit of doubt (but see my considerations on
> "favourite" - of course if his account was hacked/spammed he has all my
> simpathy).
> That said although I'm as much for freedom of ideas and speech I admit
> having a very strong bias towards someone openly (or less openly)
> pro-fascism, pro fascist "revisionism" (the intent of historically
> softening fascism), neo-fascism et. sim. even in a 'mild' way.
>>> I jumped to wrong conclusion maybe and I feel sorry for that.
>>> See a Mussolini video set myself on fire. For many reason after this
>>> stange days in Italy.
> @ Husk... I agree with you. I think you (we) should be enraged in the
> same way (I am) with all the "La storia di Mussolini", "La storia del
> fascismo" and similar shit they periodically sell in news-shops with
> large publicity on TV etc. and probably make big money with.
>>> BTW I don't get how a Mussolini video can ends on favourite video in
>>> my youtube channel. Is this youtube page Simon's channel right?
> See above.
>>>> My personal opinion is that you should have emailed Simon and asked him
>>>> privately before rubbishing him on the mailing list.
>>> I don't think so, because I believe in constructive public and
>>> collective discussions (and conflicts too)
> Hopefully this was just some misunderstanding and we can all happily go
> back to our Pd-ing :)
>
> Lorenzo.
>>> cheers
>>> husk
>>>
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