[PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

Wed Jul 6 21:00:01 CEST 2011

Just in case this could help pin down the problem : I just downloaded the
firmata_test executable from the firmata wiki page, and everything is
working real fine. So i suppose the issue really comes from pduino itself.

Pierre

2011/7/6 Pierre Massat <pimassat at gmail.com>

> Ok, i replaced mapping/debytemask and the rest as you suggested, but it
> didn't work. Then i replaced 0 and 1 in the debyte object by 8 and 9, to no
> avail.
>
> I'm afraid I can't find a fix alone, as i have no idea what the incoming
> data from the board looks like.
>
> Anyway, thanks for helping me.
>
> Pierre
>
> 2011/7/6 Ingo <ingo at miamiwave.com>
>
>> It should be here:
>>
>> [arduino] / [pd convert_to_symbolic_commands] / [pd digital messages] /
>> [mapping/debytemask]
>>
>> I was using the Pduino-0.5beta8 arduino-test.pd
>>
>>
>> Ingo
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimassat at gmail.com]
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Juli 2011 19:01
>> An: Ingo
>> Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner; pd-list at iem.at
>> Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
>>
>> Thank you Ingo. Unfortunately I can't even locate the mapping/debytemask
>> object to be replaced...
>>
>> Pierre
>> 2011/7/6 Ingo <ingo at miamiwave.com>
>> I assume that the error might be somehow caused by the fact that the
>> digital
>> pins are not offset by two as it should be the case since pin 0 & 1 ought
>> to
>> be handled separately from the rest of the digital ins.
>>
>> BTW the debyte patch should replace [mapping/debytemask] plus the
>> following
>> message boxes and the [unpack float float] object.
>>
>> Ingo
>>
>>
>> > It looks like I changed pin 8 and 9 to be output as pin 0 and 1 for some
>> > reason. You should change the two message boxes at the left from
>> >
>> > [0 $1(  [1 $1(  to
>> >
>> > [8 $1(  [9 $1(
>> >
>> > to get the correct pin numbering.
>> >
>> > Ingo
>> >
>> >
>> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> > > Von: Ingo [mailto:ingo at miamiwave.com]
>> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Juli 2011 05:46
>> > > An: 'Pierre Massat'; 'Hans-Christoph Steiner'
>> > > Cc: 'Ingo'; pd-list at iem.at
>> > > Betreff: AW: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
>> > >
>> > > > Please tell me that all hope is not lost ...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I looked it up and I found my fix. The errors are getting obvious
>> here:
>> > >
>> > > Arduino / convert_to_symbolic_commands / digital messages / debyte
>> > >
>> > > If you replace “debyte” with this patch “pd debyte” it should work
>> > > although
>> > > I am not sure if pins higher than 9 were taken care of.
>> > > If the bytes higher than 9 are still causing problems you might have
>> to
>> > > set
>> > > the first moses to a higher number like 8 or so.
>> > > I am not sure if it can interfere with anything else and I am also not
>> > > sure
>> > > if it works with boards other than Diecimila and Duemilanove.
>> > >
>> > > The problem is not “debyte” – it’s the numbers coming in that just get
>> > > fixed
>> > > with this workaround!
>> > >
>> > > Ingo
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > #N canvas 11 14 450 290 10;
>> > > #N canvas 252 114 541 378 debyte 0;
>> > > #X obj 32 161 & 1;
>> > > #X obj 82 161 & 2;
>> > > #X obj 162 345 outlet;
>> > > #X obj 32 181 change;
>> > > #X obj 82 181 change;
>> > > #X obj 32 20 inlet;
>> > > #X obj 264 181 change;
>> > > #X obj 315 181 change;
>> > > #X obj 366 181 change;
>> > > #X obj 417 181 change;
>> > > #X obj 162 181 change;
>> > > #X obj 213 181 change;
>> > > #X msg 32 221 0 \$1;
>> > > #X msg 82 221 1 \$1;
>> > > #X msg 162 221 2 \$1;
>> > > #X msg 213 221 3 \$1;
>> > > #X msg 264 221 4 \$1;
>> > > #X msg 315 221 5 \$1;
>> > > #X msg 366 221 6 \$1;
>> > > #X msg 417 221 7 \$1;
>> > > #X obj 162 308 unpack;
>> > > #X obj 205 345 outlet;
>> > > #X obj 162 161 & 4;
>> > > #X obj 213 160 & 8;
>> > > #X obj 264 161 & 16;
>> > > #X obj 32 201 == 1;
>> > > #X obj 82 201 == 2;
>> > > #X obj 162 201 == 4;
>> > > #X obj 213 201 == 8;
>> > > #X obj 264 201 == 16;
>> > > #X obj 315 201 == 32;
>> > > #X obj 315 160 & 32;
>> > > #X obj 366 201 == 64;
>> > > #X obj 417 201 == 128;
>> > > #X obj 366 161 & 64;
>> > > #X obj 417 160 & 128;
>> > > #X obj 32 41 moses 4;
>> > > #X obj 162 104 trigger float float float float float float;
>> > > #X obj 71 61 moses 253;
>> > > #X connect 0 0 3 0;
>> > > #X connect 1 0 4 0;
>> > > #X connect 3 0 25 0;
>> > > #X connect 4 0 26 0;
>> > > #X connect 5 0 36 0;
>> > > #X connect 6 0 29 0;
>> > > #X connect 7 0 30 0;
>> > > #X connect 8 0 32 0;
>> > > #X connect 9 0 33 0;
>> > > #X connect 10 0 27 0;
>> > > #X connect 11 0 28 0;
>> > > #X connect 12 0 20 0;
>> > > #X connect 13 0 20 0;
>> > > #X connect 14 0 20 0;
>> > > #X connect 15 0 20 0;
>> > > #X connect 16 0 20 0;
>> > > #X connect 17 0 20 0;
>> > > #X connect 18 0 20 0;
>> > > #X connect 19 0 20 0;
>> > > #X connect 20 0 2 0;
>> > > #X connect 20 1 21 0;
>> > > #X connect 22 0 10 0;
>> > > #X connect 23 0 11 0;
>> > > #X connect 24 0 6 0;
>> > > #X connect 25 0 12 0;
>> > > #X connect 26 0 13 0;
>> > > #X connect 27 0 14 0;
>> > > #X connect 28 0 15 0;
>> > > #X connect 29 0 16 0;
>> > > #X connect 30 0 17 0;
>> > > #X connect 31 0 7 0;
>> > > #X connect 32 0 18 0;
>> > > #X connect 33 0 19 0;
>> > > #X connect 34 0 8 0;
>> > > #X connect 35 0 9 0;
>> > > #X connect 36 0 0 0;
>> > > #X connect 36 0 1 0;
>> > > #X connect 36 1 38 0;
>> > > #X connect 37 0 22 0;
>> > > #X connect 37 1 23 0;
>> > > #X connect 37 2 24 0;
>> > > #X connect 37 3 31 0;
>> > > #X connect 37 4 34 0;
>> > > #X connect 37 5 35 0;
>> > > #X connect 38 0 37 0;
>> > > #X connect 38 1 0 0;
>> > > #X connect 38 1 1 0;
>> > > #X restore 168 99 pd debyte;
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ________________________________________
>> > > Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimassat at gmail.com]
>> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 22:23
>> > > An: Hans-Christoph Steiner
>> > > Cc: Ingo; pd-list at iem.at
>> > > Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
>> > >
>> > > You tried with your "StandardFirmata", to no avail.
>> > >
>> > > Please tell me that all hope is not lost, doc...
>> > >
>> > > :Pierre
>> > > 2011/7/5 Pierre Massat <pimassat at gmail.com>
>> > > Should I try to upload a older firmata?
>> > >
>> > > :Pierre
>> > >
>> > > 2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>> > >
>> > > The Uno board was troublesome back when I first tried it, but that was
>> a
>> > > while ago.  I didn't make that StandardFirmata_2_2_for_Uno_0_3
>> firmware,
>> > > so
>> > > I don't know what changes it has.  Is anyone having these problems on
>> > > boards
>> > > older than an Uno?
>> > >
>> > > .hc
>> > >
>> > > On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > It makes no difference at all.
>> > >
>> > > Here's what happens :
>> > > Inputs 2 through 7 work fine.
>> > > Inputs 8 and 9 work fine.
>> > >
>> > > But if i use any of the inputs within the 2-7 group, and then use any
>> > > input
>> > > of the second group (8 and 9), i have to trigger the later twice
>> before
>> > i
>> > > can see something is happening.
>> > >
>> > > It goes like this :
>> > > (in group 2 to 7)
>> > > First guy : "Pushed button 3."
>> > > Second guy (Pd) : "Ok, pushed button 3."
>> > > First guy : "Pushed button 7."
>> > > Second guy : "K, you pushed button 7."
>> > > First guy : "Pushed button 8."
>> > > Second guy : "Come again?"
>> > > First guy : "PUSHED BUTTON 8!"
>> > > Second guy : "Oh, yeah, button 8..."
>> > > First guy ; "Pushed button 3."
>> > > Second guy : "I'm sorry, what button?"
>> > > First guy : "BUTTON 3!!"
>> > > Second guy : "Yep, button 3.
>> > >
>> > > I hope it is clear now what the problem is.
>> > >
>> > > Pierre
>> > > 2011/7/5 Pierre Massat <pimassat at gmail.com>
>> > > Ok, I checked in Windows XP, with a custom sketch, and all of my
>> inputs
>> > > work
>> > > flawlessly.
>> > > (The IDE seem to work much better in Windows than in Linux btw).
>> > >
>> > > So the problem has to be somewhere between firmata and pduino.
>> > >
>> > > I will try with the latest pduino...
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for your help!
>> > >
>> > > Pierre
>> > >
>> > > 2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>> > >
>> > > It would good to nail down the source of this and fix it.  Which
>> version
>> > > of
>> > > Firmata are you using? Which firmware?  Also, there was a bug like
>> that
>> > a
>> > > while back that was fixed, so make sure you have the latest Pd patch
>> > too:
>> > >
>> > > http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino
>> > >
>> > > .hc
>> > >
>> > > On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Ingo wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I fixed it by replacing the mapping object by a custom patch which
>> deals
>> > > with the first two switches seperately.
>> > > I’ll look it up tomorrow and send you my fix.
>> > >
>> > > >And where does the problem lie? In the board, firmata, or pduino?
>> > >
>> > > It suppose fermata since the wrong numbers arrive at pduino.
>> > >
>> > > Ingo
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ________________________________________
>> > > Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimassat at gmail.com]
>> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 20:41
>> > > An: Ingo Scherzinger
>> > > Cc: Ingo Scherzinger
>> > > Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
>> > >
>> > > Can we fix that??
>> > >
>> > > Pierre
>> > > 2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger <ingo at fixitinthemix.de>
>> > > I happens when switching from the first two switches to the others
>> > within
>> > > a
>> > > 8-bit block. Since the block has the wrong header it will ignore the
>> > "on"
>> > > message and send the first "off". So you have to press the button
>> twice.
>> > > Once pressed it works until you press another button within that block
>> > and
>> > > return to the first one.
>> > >
>> > > Ingo
>> > >
>> > > ________________________________________
>> > > Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimassat at gmail.com]
>> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:56
>> > > An: Ingo Scherzinger
>> > > Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
>> > >
>> > > Glad to know i'm not the only one with this problem! Sorry for
>> starting
>> > a
>> > > new thread.
>> > > I have problems with inputs 8 and 9, or 9 and 10 (the first two on the
>> > > second digital input socket).
>> > >
>> > > Pierre
>> > > 2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger <ingo at miamiwave.com>
>> > > This is the same problem I had described several times before. There
>> is
>> > an
>> > > error in the 8-bit block where the digital ins 2+3 are coming in. It
>> can
>> > > be
>> > > traced somewhere in the mapping section. I'll try to finally look it
>> up
>> > > tomorrow.
>> > >
>> > > Ingo
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ________________________________________
>> > > Von: pd-list-bounces at iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces at iem.at] Im
>> Auftrag
>> > von
>> > > Pierre Massat
>> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:36
>> > > An: pd-list
>> > > Betreff: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
>> > >
>> > > Hi All,
>> > >
>> > > I apologie if this is off-topic. Please let me know if you think it
>> is.
>> > >
>> > > I have been working on my arduino-based pedal, and im faced with a
>> > > peculiar
>> > > problem right now. I'm using 8 digital inputs ( 6 on the first socket
>> of
>> > > the
>> > > board, inputs 2 through 8, and 2 on the second digital socket, inputs
>> 9
>> > > and
>> > > 10). The first 6 inputs work perfectly, but when i want to use any of
>> > the
>> > > last two inputs (9 and 10), i have to trigger them twice before they
>> > start
>> > > working. Then i'm faced with the exact same problem when i get back to
>> > the
>> > > first 6 inputs. I am pretty sure that i used the very same wiring for
>> > all
>> > > 8
>> > > inputs.
>> > >
>> > > So... I thought that maybe this could be a problem with firmata or
>> > pduino
>> > > (no offense, Hans!). I have been spending the last hour trying to
>> write
>> > a
>> > > simple program in the arduino software in order to print in serial
>> > monitor
>> > > the values of my digital inputs.
>> > >
>> > > Now my question... Is the arduino software just really really bad? Or
>> > was
>> > > it
>> > > just not designed to work on an ubuntu machine? It is randomly very
>> slow
>> > > at
>> > > start-up, it randomly disables the serial port menu in Tools, it
>> > randomly
>> > > decides to prevent me from uploading the program in the board, or
>> warns
>> > me
>> > > that serial port dev/ttyACM0 is already in use, or can't be found. The
>> > > fact
>> > > that i unplug and replug the board, or change the usb port, or restart
>> > the
>> > > software doesn't seem to make any difference.
>> > >
>> > > This is beginning to look more like witchcraft than computer science
>> to
>> > > me.
>> > >
>> > > Please help me, or i'll teach it how to fly out my window.
>> > >
>> > > Thank you.
>> > >
>> > > Pierre
>> > >
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