[PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Sun Jul 10 02:07:14 CEST 2011



--- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at> wrote:

> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features
> To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancsika at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Ivica Ico Bukvic" <ico at vt.edu>, pd-list at iem.at
> Date: Saturday, July 9, 2011, 10:38 PM
> 
> On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:48 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
> wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >> The problem with forks is if improvements don't
> migrate
> >> upstream.
> >
> > I think it's both a problem-with and a cause-of.
> 
> Yup, that makes sense.
> 
> >> Then we don't benefit from sharing the
> >> fixes.  Making things migrate upstream takes
> time in
> >> itself.
> >
> > How does one figure out who has the responsibility to
> make sure  
> > things migrate upstream (for example: [initbang] and
> [closebang])?
> 
> Mostly by someone deciding its important enough that they
> want to work  
> on it themself, and then lots of testing and
> communication.

Ok.  So in patch id#2838176, what is Guenter's idea for a clean implementation of tooltips that you were referring to?  I didn't find anything on the user or dev list.

> 
> >> Try getting a patch into the Linux kernel,
> >> that'll make Pd seem like cake ;-)
> >
> > Yes, I would hope that making changes to the core of
> the largest  
> > free software project in the history of computing is a
> wee bit more  
> > difficult than making changes to Pd.
> 
> Actually, there are much bigger projects than Linux, things
> like  
> Debian are quite a bit larger in scale.

I read a white paper on total development cost of a linux distro and just remembered "linux".  I think the distro in the paper was Fedora 9, which was estimated to be almost an order of magnitude more expensive than the Linux kernel.

-Jonathan

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