[PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Jul 9, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

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> --- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at> wrote:
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>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>> Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing  
>> features
>> To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancsika at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "Ivica Ico Bukvic" <ico at vt.edu>, pd-list at iem.at
>> Date: Saturday, July 9, 2011, 10:38 PM
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:48 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
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>>> --- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>> wrote:
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>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> The problem with forks is if improvements don't
>> migrate
>>>> upstream.
>>>
>>> I think it's both a problem-with and a cause-of.
>>
>> Yup, that makes sense.
>>
>>>> Then we don't benefit from sharing the
>>>> fixes.  Making things migrate upstream takes
>> time in
>>>> itself.
>>>
>>> How does one figure out who has the responsibility to
>> make sure
>>> things migrate upstream (for example: [initbang] and
>> [closebang])?
>>
>> Mostly by someone deciding its important enough that they
>> want to work
>> on it themself, and then lots of testing and
>> communication.
>
> Ok.  So in patch id#2838176, what is Guenter's idea for a clean  
> implementation of tooltips that you were referring to?  I didn't  
> find anything on the user or dev list.

Hmm, I can't remember what Günter's proposal was, but I do have a  
vague idea of how to do it cleanly.  I think it should be similar to  
the way its done in Max/MSP.  Basically there is a standard function,  
something like nlet_info(), which returns the tooltip info.  Pd would  
then check whether an object had that function when it loaded the  
binary, and if so register it in the tooltips.

.hc


>>>> Try getting a patch into the Linux kernel,
>>>> that'll make Pd seem like cake ;-)
>>>
>>> Yes, I would hope that making changes to the core of
>> the largest
>>> free software project in the history of computing is a
>> wee bit more
>>> difficult than making changes to Pd.
>>
>> Actually, there are much bigger projects than Linux, things
>> like
>> Debian are quite a bit larger in scale.
>
> I read a white paper on total development cost of a linux distro and  
> just remembered "linux".  I think the distro in the paper was Fedora  
> 9, which was estimated to be almost an order of magnitude more  
> expensive than the Linux kernel.
>
> -Jonathan
>
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>> .hc
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>>> -Jonathan
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>>>> .hc
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>>>>>
>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>>> And
>>>>>> anything assigned to Miller and reviewed
>>>> positively by
>>>>>> IOhannes I'm
>>>>>> going to defer any action on until Miller
>>>> responds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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